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sleepy jack 04-01-2008 11:59 PM

You didn't disagree with it when I posted it.

chartsengrafs 04-02-2008 12:08 AM

no, those sentiments are generally correct. but i like blue album the most. and i consider weezer a good band, even with their recent duds. so, now we have established weezer is a good band, in my subjective opinion. although what you posted is generally true, it doesn't change that whether you like weezer or not is a subjective opinion.

just like saying blue album is their best is just an opinion. i have a friend who's a big fan of make believe. to him, you're earlier post would be complete bull****. see?

so now i stand by what i said about saying blue album being a bad album to be blasphemy. that is all. good day.

sleepy jack 04-02-2008 12:12 AM

I think Weezer suck boohoo. I even admitted in my post the Blue Album was generally considered a good album, that's being pretty fair of me isn't it? Even you agreed Weezer doesn't have a consistent discography. I don't know why you're bitching about this other than for the sake of bitching.

chartsengrafs 04-02-2008 12:19 AM

dude, i'm not even bitching. this is a friendly discussion. i just said i disagreed and you're the one who came back and replied like three days later. i've moved on, crowie. no hard feelings, ok? lol..

kelton 04-02-2008 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pheurton (Post 460378)
Pedro the Lion - Control

Wow really? I really enjoyed Control. Its probably my favorite after Achilles Heel.

pheurton 04-02-2008 04:00 AM

I didn't care much for it at all, rapture is a beautiful song but nothing else captures me on it.

boo boo 04-02-2008 05:35 AM

Just about everything from 1984 up until 2001 - Yes
Trans - Neil Young
Ummagumma - Pink Floyd
In Through the Out Door & Coda - Led Zeppelin
*Enter 80s album by 70s prog band here*

Rainard Jalen 04-02-2008 06:06 AM

Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, Salival, Lateralus and 10,000 Days by Tool. All among their weaker efforts imo.

boo boo 04-02-2008 06:44 AM

Funny. :rolleyes:

Zer0 04-02-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 462798)
J
*Enter 80s album by 70s prog band here*

Rush released Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures in 1980 and 1981 respectively and they were good albums.

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 462805)
Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, Salival, Lateralus and 10,000 Days by Tool. All among their weaker efforts imo.

Lmao you're having a giraffe ;)

Seltzer 04-02-2008 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 462818)
Rush released Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures in 1980 and 1981 respectively and they were good albums.

I think Signals is quite a good album too. And Stationary Traveller was my first Camel album. :o:

boo boo 04-02-2008 08:57 AM

Rush and Camel are some of the exceptions.

King Crimson are another, I love their 80s stuff, which reminds me of Talking Heads in some ways.

And I like Phil Collins era Genesis, I wont lie.

As for Yes, Drama was a really good album and 90125 is alright. But everything else from that decade is just crazy bad. Big Generator anyone?

And then theres Jethro Tull, ELP, Gentle Giant and The Moody Blues. All trying to go 80s pop, and failing miserably.

Gentle Giant only had one album in the 80s, Civilian. But it was so bad they broke up afterwards.

Davey Moore 04-02-2008 02:54 PM

In Through The Out Door - Led Zeppelin

jacklovezhimself 04-03-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 462650)
I said "Good Artists" and as I proved with Weezer if mediocre/bad albums make up most of your discography you're not a good artist.

ha. I don't know Green Day's first coupla albums weren't that bad.

The Unfan 04-04-2008 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 462698)
I felt my Weezer post was pretty objective.

You can't technically have an objective intangible.

Graham Clayton 04-04-2008 11:47 PM

Bad albums by good artists
 
"Breathe" by Midnight Oil was arguably their worst effort. They just sounded jaded and lifeless. I can't remember the last time I listened to it. Thankfully they got back to form with their next CD "Redneck Wonderland".

Oomph! 04-06-2008 02:16 AM

St.Anger - Metallica

Zer0 04-07-2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 464483)
St.Anger - Metallica

Don't stop there! Load? Reload? Christ give us back the old Metalllica :yikes:

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-07-2008 11:50 AM

Metallica - And Justice For All

Overlong , boring , badly produced and grossly over-rated just because it's 'old' Metallica.

SATCHMO 04-07-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 465036)
Metallica - And Justice For All

I thought it was the pinnacle of their career, myself, but....

boo boo 04-07-2008 11:55 AM

I wouldn't call it bad, but I never really cared for it either.

Master of Puppets ftw.

jackhammer 04-07-2008 01:39 PM

I cant stand AJFA either. Terrible production and they badly missed Burtons sense of melody.

Oomph! 04-07-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 465075)
I cant stand AJFA either.

Blasphemy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 465036)
Metallica - And Justice For All

Overlong , boring , badly produced and grossly over-rated just because it's 'old' Metallica.

How dare you

jackhammer 04-07-2008 04:32 PM

We easily dare because we can. The production has no bass whatsoever and shamefully omits any input Jason Newstead may have had. The title track alone is an embodiment of exactly what Thrash was railing against-progressive, unecessary musical ramblings with no path in mind. Ulrichs drums sound like biscuit tins but that is not surprising due to his ego. He loves the sound of his drums drowning everything else out. What else? Oh yeah. Despite ONE being a half decent song, Metallica done what they said they would never do-make a video that was commercial enough to be on MTV. By the way, I am not someone who knows feck all about Metallica. I seen them twice on this tour and proclaimed them my favourite band of all time. Time has (gladly) proved me wrong. They are a very important metal band, but they certainly are not one of the best.

Comus 04-07-2008 04:43 PM

Am I the only one that loves Tin Machine?

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-07-2008 04:44 PM

Yes

And I can even forgive him for Never Let Me Down

jackhammer 04-07-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 465217)
Am I the only one that loves Tin Machine?

No. I love the first album. I put a track (Pretty Thing) into a comp I posted on here. I don't see the problem. He did'nt use the Bowie name and was admirable in it's failure. There is some good stuff going on in the debut that needs reappraisal I think.

SATCHMO 04-07-2008 05:17 PM

I thought the first album was great too, but then again I wasn't aware of any subsequent albums until now

Oomph! 04-07-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 465198)
We easily dare because we can. The production has no bass whatsoever and shamefully omits any input Jason Newstead may have had.

That one I'll give you but people have since remixed the songs and added bass in (if it's any consolation)

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The title track alone is an embodiment of exactly what Thrash was railing against-progressive, unecessary musical ramblings with no path in mind.
AJFA, the song, is fucking awesome. Just because they didn't write to conform to the 'thrash' stencil and wrote some music how they wanted to write it without worrying if they were going match this preconcept of what 'thrash metal is 'pose to sound like' doesn't mean it was bad.

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Ulrichs drums sound like biscuit tins but that is not surprising due to his ego.
Drums sounded fine to me, listen to Dyer's Eve the drums kick ass (especially during the verses( 'dear mother, dear father')).

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Despite ONE being a half decent song,
As it turns out, one is one of my least favorites on the album, it takes way too long to get to the good part =)

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Metallica done what they said they would never do-make a video that was commercial enough to be on MTV.
They wrote the song before they made the video, please foregive them for thier sins.

Quote:

By the way, I am not someone who knows feck all about Metallica. I seen them twice on this tour and proclaimed them my favourite band of all time. Time has (gladly) proved me wrong. They are a very important metal band, but they certainly are not one of the best.
How can you compete (let's just talk about AJFA here) with Dyers Eve, Blackened, Frayed Ends of Sanity, Shortest Straw, I mean the whole album? It's simply balls to the wall awesomeness.

jackhammer 04-07-2008 05:19 PM

There was a follow up but even I have to say that it was poor. It was imaginatively called Tin Machine II.

Comus 04-07-2008 05:26 PM

I liked both S/t and S/t II it was just so refreshing that bowie was doing good music again, something clearly absent from his work since the mid-70's

jackhammer 04-07-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oomph! (Post 465278)
How can you compete (let's just talk about AJFA here) with Dyers Eve, Blackened, Frayed Ends of Sanity, Shortest Straw, I mean the whole album? It's simply balls to the wall awesomeness.

Easily. Even some tracks from Garage days re-revisited have more energy and verve about them:


This is how I compete with AJFA:



Oomph! 04-07-2008 05:53 PM

I'm not trying to put down those songs, but seriously, AJFA > MOP.

EPIC:


jackhammer 04-07-2008 06:02 PM

Was the first tallica album u heard AJFA perchance?

ghropi 04-10-2008 02:57 PM

Hypnotize and Mezmerize (System of a Down) were pretty terrible... so was South's most recent album. I have to say, though, that as a Soundgarden/Chris Cornell/Temple of the Dog fan I was greatly disappointed by all of the Audioslave albums.. they just didn't live up to the greatness that I've come to expect from Chris Cornell..


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