Examples of what?

What I don't like?

Well damn. It would be a rather long list if I had to name everyone, so I'll just keep it small and pick out the main culprits.

Modest Mouse..... SURPRISE =D
Feist
Patrick Wolf
Bright Eyes
Interpol
Von Bondies
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Broken Social Scene
Devendra Banhart

whoops, I never said you said that I said by your logic.


you lose.

"of the quality of the music that defines the so called scene."

Sorry, my edit was a little late. :(

HE said 2008 not 2003

I don't recall him asking for artists that are popular now, I thought he meant in general.

I don't even post on anything relating to Indie anymore, so I have absolutely no idea whats popular now, and I'm fine with that.

Any "indie" bands you do like?

Certainly. Not many that are popular now, save Flaming Lips, My Morning Jacket and Neutral Milk Hotel, like a little Arcade Fire as well.

Most of the indie I like is 80s and 90s. Pixies, Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine, dEUS, Pavement, stuff like that.

I also like post and math rock, which is associated with Indie, but oddly enough, also associated with prog.

It is true, indie's come full circle. Prog bands like Battles (did anybody actually like "Mirrored" from last year?) are now considered indie.

I would say though that on the basis of what you've written boo boo, you're probably more affiliated with "mainstream" indie and may not have heard enough of the scene on the whole.

I didn't really like Mirrored, but i remember a lot of people raving about them.

You mean online, or in "real life"? I can't imagine coming across a person who could lay claim to liking Mirrored.

I can't imagine even running across very many people who'd heard of Battles in real life.

Online, no one actually knows about these bands irl.

^ agreed.

I think paying attention to indie bands is like working in a Siagon sweatshop, hours of hard labour involved with nothing great to show for it, except for knowing obscure bands that your freinds dont, than holding over their heads..... if anyones into that sort of thing......

but there are worse hobbies out there.....

Those of us that actually do like the music, don't mind putting effort into finding good bands...we also do it because we enjoy the music, if the people that surround us actually cared what we listen to I'd imagine we wouldn't go searching for an on-line message board in hopes of finding kindred spirits...:\

hey, it aint a bad hobbie, whatever floats your boat captain :D

It ain't a bad hobby? What the HELL are you doing on a music message board?!!!

Wow this has become a big bitchy argument full of annoying contradictions and bickering. I forgot what the question was.

[QUOTE=nothing great to show for it, except for knowing obscure bands that your freinds dont, than holding over their heads..... if anyones into that sort of thing......
/QUOTE]

Haha, I would say at least 90% of this board are into that sort of thing. Me included.

probably the same as most other members. letting a small minority of users do the work then snagging band names while avoiding the elitism hahaha

I listen to whatever pitchfork reviews.. I hate the music I listen to aswell. But I am cool. RIght>?>

maybe jaded is the wrong word. i've just outgrown melodramatic indie pop and tired-ass indie rock :yikes:

Your insinuation that Pitchfork listeners do not even like what they listen to and just do it to be cool is pretty much the height of arrogance.

Even if 'music is dead' as you stated. Is that to say you feel you've heard everything you could of years gone by?
Most of BIG moments with albums were not new albums at all. Just things I hadn't heard before.
Basically, if music was dead. I think we would still have enough of a back catalogue to keep us going for a while.

Rainard Jalen>>> It was more of a dig at the orignal poster, suggesting that maybe he needs to widen his scope of sources for new music. It that is the problem.. I don't know.

That annoys me... when people talk of music with 'good bass', it nowadays seldomly means that it actually has a well-written bassline. More just that it's loud.

Given the thread question, I'd say a thread full of contradictions and bickering was expected from the outset.

Bassline seems to be growing increasingly popular in the UK. I like to see you question the basslines used in that.

I think you misunderstood where I was coming from. My post wasn't intended to be read in the sense that I think there are no good basslines nowadays (because that's not true).

I'm just referring to some of the rubbish 'basslines' which seem to be rife nowadays... you know... the kids who just want to beef up their sound system and take their cars for a spin with the deepest bass possible. There seems to be a widening riff between 'loud' bass and well-written basslines.

I think you'll possibly see that change. I think the two will merge soon. I, personally, quite like this whole fascination with sub bass though, to be fair. :)

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[QUOTE=Friday;462485]Haha, I would say you're a retard who likes to generalize...haha...:rolleyes:

So, is it bad that thats probably something I would say?

Nothing great to "show for it"? Since when was listening to music about showing off something to friends? Well, guess what? It isn't! It's about finding personal, yes, PERSONAL enjoyment in something. So all those "hours of hard labour" do in fact result in good things, but strictly for the person himself. Chances are he derives a greater diversity of pleasures from music than people who just listen to the same old rubbish all the time. That is, U2, Keane, Snow Patrol, Razorlight, and the rest of the adult alternative RUBBISH on Virgin Radio.

Yes, because that would be a wild assumption without any basis in reality. Unless you mean to prove me wrong.:\

I'm not sure why it's so hard to believe that some people are so crazy about music, that they spend quite a bit of time on finding something new and exciting. I don't know about you, but few experiences in life can compare to hearing some brilliant music for the first time...speaking from personal experience, it's become sort of an obsession, like a drug of sorts, I constantly need a new fix. Indie just happens to be an incredibly wast and diverse territory to explore (seeing as how nowadays practically anyone with a microphone can put their material out there). There's thousands of small bands out there that will never be on TRL and are just waiting to be discovered. If you have an open mind and you're willing to search a bit...

Well sort of...

Like there are some good songs. But I still love older music better than modern day

i totally understand you're POV. been there, done that - i called it college haha.

i think there's one other downside to the way you describe independent music though. where you're spot on about how anyone with a mic can release music, it also makes it really easy for groups to simply disappear. i'm not saying it's a reason to abandon looking for new stuff. but it can be disheartening for someone starting out to find a great band online and then - poof. a webpage that never updates again and knowledge of an album you'll never get unless you travel to a remote little town somewhere on the other side of the planet.

like you said, it's like a drug. some people will keep chasing the dragon. others will chose to walk away. and others, like the bearcat implied, will simply use their knowledge to assert some level of perceived intellectual superiority over their peers to cover up some other insecurity from within their psyches.

I don't think quality music is as mainstream as it was previously, record companies are more concerned with quarterly profits, rather than developing artists. There are geniuses out there, making really great music, but I can't find any, I don't browse around enough.

[QUOTE=adidasss;462789]I include myself in that previous statement. But if you wish to get all defensive then go right ahead. :thumb:

How does that change the fact that you made a stupid generalization? I'm glad that you admit to being a poseur, but let's not try to pin that label on "90% of this board" aye?