Yeah...one untitled song is bad enough, a whole album's worth is fucking stupid!

Like those Ghost songs by NIN. 36 songs, all without proper names. Prick.

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That's not bad though, I actually thought it was cool. It's much more irritating when there's more then one Untitled track on an album, messes up scrobbling too.

I heard the () album of Sigur Ros is not supposed to be called "untitled". There was more of a concept behind it.
They felt it was more appropriate for the listeners to name each track the way it sounded to each one of them.
They didn't want to tell the people what to feel or think about when hearing their songs. It's more of a personalized album. [even in the inside of the album there was a 12 page booklet, so that the listener would draw whatever comes in mind].

I'm just a sucker for concepts.

Yeah I know, don't get me wrong I love the album, but if they wanted listeners to name each track by the way it sounded to them, why did they put other names in parenthesis next to the word 'Untitled'? I don't know, just a weird thing that annoys me. I guess ( ) is one of the more creative attempts at trying to base a concept around ....untitledness.

It wasn't NIN or Sigur Ros that drove me to this entry.

It was actually a band called The Puffy Areolas.

Just thought i'd throw that out :thumb:

Oh, I wasn't aware of the track names next to the parenthesis.

Seems that's how the members refer to the tracks, but I don't know why we should care what the members name these tracks between each other.

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Hmmm... I don't know. The motives behind this may not necessarily be pretentiousness. Especially when it comes to instrumental music it gets a little ridiculous coming up with names for songs so I can see why someone would just say, "Fuck it, I'm not bothering with a title."

Then maybe they should make the title, "Fuck it, I'm Not Bothering With a Title."

if they can't be bothered with titling their work then odds are their work wasn't worth recording in the first place.

I'm joking.

But that's not necessarily true. Not every song needs a name.

It doesn't have to be called "Untitled" but it doesn't need a name.

I would rather NIN's "Ghost I," etc.

at least 'Ghost X' follows a named theme. by sticking with 'untitled' it makes it seem as though no one involved in the process of creating that piece ever gave enough of a crap about it to do anything besides the absolute bare minimum.

We're agreeing with each other. xD

I'm not going to say anything else.

^I don't think that's true at all, it's just like saying "Symphony no.5", it doesn't need a word to describe the song, the song describes itself.

It's like any other kind of Art, except in music we're going backwards. It's like when Bacon names his painting "Painting".

There's always something pretentious in titles, when the work of art doesn't include any words. How can anyone describe something abstract?

You're agreeing with him, too.

He's saying that "Ghost X" is better than having no name.

no, I'm saying it's better to have no name.
Because something abstract [like instrumental music], should stay abstract.

So you'd rather it be called "Untitled?"

comparing a modern song to a classical symphony is like comparing a pebble in your driveway to a mountain in the Himalayas.

while i agree there's always a little something pretentious in naming one's creations, there's something far more pretentious in refusing to name them from either laziness or a hypocritical fear or appearing pretentious. especially when they're 5 minute pop rock overtures.

I don't know about which track you're talking, I'm just saying in general. I agree a that a symphony can't be compared to to 'modern' song. But they work on the same concept.

I hate it when people try to explain an instrumental song or a painting.
And I donno how we can know which 'untitled' is hypocrite or lazy or just not being pretentious. As for me, I got no problem with it.

I hate it more from a practical standpoint rather than an artistic one.

So it just annoys you? =P

That's why its in here :thumb:

Concept Art was made to be annoying :D

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Sadly NIN have as much artistic merit as one of my pictures of a stick man.

You mean, a lot?:p:

It's so rare that I know the names of songs on albums I listen to—even albums that I listen to a lot—that from a practical standpoint I couldn't care less if a band named their song "A Bloated Composition of Tremendous Importance" or "Retractable Badger Dick" or "Track 4" or nothing at all. Unless the name of the song is lifted directly from the lyrics of the chorus chances are I'm not going to remember it, which is why I don't know many jazz songs by name even though I own and listen to quite a bit of jazz.

That infommercial gets me every time.

xD I didn't even realize how obvious what I said just was.

Really have to agree on this one.My sister's taken to wearing a Velvet Underground top despite having never heard of Nico.