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sleepy jack 08-31-2008 04:46 PM
sleepy jack's lists
 
Instead of making a gigantic 100 thread and abandoning it I'm going to just do smaller lists and confine them to one thread. First one is my favorite 25 lyricists.

25. Nick Drake
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/43377.jpg

Sometimes just a quiet folk singer with straightforward lyrics, other times like Robert Frost with a guitar Nick Drake's seems like hes almost humming the words in his quiet way. Be he asking if you'd love him through the winter or singing about cocaine blues, he always means it.

Quote:
I never felt magic crazy as this,
I never saw moons
Knew the meaning of the sea.
I never held emotion in the palm of my hand
Or felt sweet breezes in the top of a tree,
But now you're here, brighten my northern sky.

sleepy jack 08-31-2008 06:49 PM
24. Jenn Ghetto
http://a700.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...73e1e5f8fb.jpg

Raw, sad, and no one's reading this. It's Jenn Ghetto.

Quote:
Saying sad things that don't make sense
Can just make you look like a liar,
Don't convince me that your right
About some fear I have of heartache,
So I'll make you just one promise
That I'll never regret this.

Piss Me Off 09-01-2008 04:19 AM
I bets i know who'll be first...

lucifer_sam 09-01-2008 10:33 AM
I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into some generic singer-songwriter fellating contest. I wanna see someone who was appraised for their musicianship rather than lyrical efforts.

Predictions for future posts:
Elliott Smith
Conor Oberst
Morrissey
Jeff Buckley

...and so on. It's gonna get real boring real quick.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 03:25 PM
"First one is my favorite 25 lyricists."

simplephysics 09-01-2008 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 513187)
I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into some generic singer-songwriter fellating contest. I wanna see someone who was appraised for their musicianship rather than lyrical efforts.
Because Elliott Smith has no talent musicianship wise.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 04:02 PM
23. Owen Ashworth
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/175010.jpg

Be he referencing the Smiths, quoting Morrissey or imitating Morrissey. Owen is always a pastor of mope with no hope of being the true pope but he tries and I appreciate his quiet confessions.

Quote:
It's always tight at the end of the month
Until that check comes there's nothing for lunch,
I'm sick of all my stuff and halfway broke
To tired to pretend that i'm not sick of my friends.
Some days I'm sorry that I ever moved here
Some days I think about moving back in with my folks,
Some days I think about moving up north
The rent is cheaper I can have a house and a porch,
To watch the rain
Walk out in the rain,
Stand under the rain.
To watch the rain
Walk out in the rain,
Stand under the rain.
And let Seattle wash me
And let Seattle wash me

lucifer_sam 09-01-2008 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 513312)
Because Elliott Smith has no talent musicianship wise.
His solo career never really showcased any particular musical talents. Shame, because he was the real genius of Heatmiser. If he isn't #1 I will be very surprised.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 04:09 PM
How can you listen to this: YouTube - King's Crossing and say only Heatmiser showcased his musical talents? That's ridiculous, he was writing, producing and playing everything on his own albums, with Heatmiser he was just their guitarist playing mostly power chord rock songs. He didn't even write half the stuff, Neil Gust did.

lucifer_sam 09-01-2008 04:13 PM
You're misinterpret what I'm trying to say. He was a great songwriter and lyricist (obviously), but the stuff he wrote was technically simple in comparison to his earlier work with Heatmiser. And no, it wasn't all power chords.

THAT is obviously an exception.

ipod junkie 09-01-2008 04:17 PM
Keep going...I'm interested!

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 04:20 PM
YouTube - Don't Go Down - Elliott Smith
YouTube - Elliott Smith - Coast to Coast
YouTube - Elliott Smith See You In Heaven
YouTube - Elliott Smith - Son Of Sam
YouTube - Junk Bond Trader - Elliott Smith
YouTube - Elliott Smith A Question Mark

I could go on and list more. Whats one Heatmiser song thats so technical in comparison to Elliott's stuff?

simplephysics 09-01-2008 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 513346)
You're misinterpret what I'm trying to say. He was a great songwriter and lyricist (obviously), but the stuff he wrote was technically simple in comparison to his earlier work with Heatmiser. And no, it wasn't all power chords.

THAT is obviously an exception.
I think songs like King's Crossing and Waltz #2 are perfect examples of Elliott showing he can do more than write songs.. and as much as I love him, he wouldn't be number 1 on my lyricists list, and I think Ethan would agree.

lucifer_sam 09-01-2008 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 513350)
Heatmiser wasn't technical per se, but they had a more layered feel than most of what Elliott wrote by himself. Maybe it was the fact that they were a full band. It's not like he ever enlisted a backing band when he went onstage.

And even those songs aren't really technically difficult, they're just mixed well.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 513360)
Heatmiser wasn't technical per se, but they had a more layered feel than most of what Elliott wrote by himself.
Plenty of Elliott's songs were well layered, Cupid's Trick for instance and all the ones I listed. Heatmiser were heavier, that's about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 513360)
Maybe it was the fact that they were a full band. It's not like he ever enlisted a backing band when he went onstage.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 08:32 PM
22. Colin Meloy
http://rcrdlbl.com/files/rblog_image...loyPost500.jpg

Why did Colin Meloy love Pirates of the Caribbean? Cause it was rated arrghhh. And if you were to add how hot Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp are, then cut that in half you'd have the lyrical abilities of Colin Meloy. Whether he's singing Shakespearean songs of love or writing the Engine Driver which rules my life, he's always cool man.

Quote:
I am a writer, writer of fictions
I am the heart that you call home,
And I've written pages upon pages
Trying to rid you from my bones.

The Unfan 09-01-2008 08:37 PM
Really? I always thought his lyrics were rather cheesy.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 08:38 PM
Come on, "I am a writer, writer of fictions / I am the heart that you call home, / And I've written pages upon pages / Trying to rid you from my bones." how does that not rule?

The Unfan 09-01-2008 08:39 PM
I don't have a home. :(

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 08:40 PM
I'll be your home.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 09:06 PM
21. Travis Morrison
http://www.usounds.com/wp/wp-content.../08/travis.jpg

I'm really running out of things to say. Travis lyrics are like a mental breakdown and he way way better then Jim Morrison, why is that comparison warranted? Because they have the same last name.

Quote:
I lost my membership card to the human race
So don’t forget the face
Because I know that I do belong here
Go down the checklist let’s see:
Feelings are good
Dishonesty is bad
And keeping it inside is worse still

15Steps 09-01-2008 09:55 PM
this should be good.
keep em coming.

sleepy jack 09-01-2008 10:07 PM
20. Nick Cave
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/396124.jpg

He's the bad motherfucker, the dude with the stache, the manliest man ever, it's Nick Cave.

Quote:
L is for LOVE, baby
O is for ONLY you that I do
V is for loving VIRTUALLY everything that you are
E is for loving almost EVERYTHING that you do
R is for RAPE me
M is for MURDER me
A is for ANSWERING all of my prayers
N is for KNOWING your loverman's going to be the answer to all of yours.

sweet_nothing 09-02-2008 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 513452)
I'll be your home.
This could be the creepiest thing I've ever read but other than that I <3 your list Ethan. :)

dac 09-02-2008 06:36 PM
nice to see colin meloy on the list

lucifer_sam 09-02-2008 08:10 PM
Ahhhhh...

Ethan, I just meant that there are good lyricists outside the generic indie/alternative genre. I mean, if that's your primary choice of discourse, it's gonna really limit upon what you say is best. But there are spectacular lyricists beyond that. I mean, I abhor classic rock lyrics because they're so bereft of emotion. But I think there's a lot of folk singers that have breached boundaries and set standards for lyricists. I'm also a big fan of absurdist lyrics, especially Beefheart and Zappa, as well as a few rappers (Mos Def, Immortal Technique, Sage Francis, etc).

I just think that you might not be considering lyricists from wider genres. Its still early, so you have the opportunity to prove me wrong. =)

Crowe 09-03-2008 11:32 AM
I'd be surprised if I'M not number 1.

The Unfan 09-03-2008 09:59 PM
I'd be surprised if Ethan didn't list himself as number 1.

FireInCairo 09-04-2008 03:39 AM
nick cave is one hard mo'****ah
my dad hates him cause he was at school with him...
and he was a depressing kid who drew pictures of women in bath tubs with their wrists slit all art class
but i think hes all class
the birthday party rocked like a bitch!

sweet_nothing 09-04-2008 03:14 PM
I never could get into Nick Cave.=x

sleepy jack 09-04-2008 07:11 PM
I'd be surprised if Ethan didn't list Crowequill as number 1.

Crowe 09-04-2008 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 514516)
I'd be surprised if Ethan didn't list Crowequill as number 1.
hahhah touche!!

sleepy jack 09-04-2008 08:10 PM
19. Phil Elverum
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2002.jpg

This is how you get ladies.

Quote:
We found a precious place in the sand right out in the wind
And we laid under a blanket and heard the furious sound
The roar of waves, the pounding surf, two bodies on the earth
It was intense just getting to be there next to you
And you trying to get me then, and I was happy to let you in.

sleepy jack 09-07-2008 08:31 PM
18. Richey James Edwards
http://i34.tinypic.com/24oaejd.jpg

Richey is one of the best writers to ever grace music but one of the worst lyrics. Sometimes his lines are awkward, sometimes his ideals too stripped down or simplified to be coherent (though this probably more Bradfield and Wire's fault) but they're always raw, idealistic and angry (mostly on the Holy Bible, which is the goods) though sometimes its confusing as to who the anger's directed at, society, himself or how shit the Manics would become.

Quote:
You have your very own number
They dress your cage in it's nature
Once you roared now you just grunt lame
Pace around pathetic pound games
They drag sticks along your walls
Harvest your ovaries dead mothers crawl
Here comes warden, Christ, temple, elders
Environment not yours you see through it all
Wanna get out won't miss you sensaround
Carry your own dead to swing your tyre tricks
Wanna get out here you're bred dead quick
For the outside,
The small black flowers that grow in the sky
Here chewing your tail is joy.

sleepy jack 09-09-2008 04:43 PM
17. Jens Lekman
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/114550.jpg

Witty and swedish,
Full of love and fireworks,
I wrote a haiku.

Quote:
If you ever need a stranger to sing at your wedding
A last minute choice then I am your man,
I know every song, you name it
by Bacharach or David,
Every stupid lovesong that's ever touched your heart,
Every power ballad that's ever climbed the charts.
You think it's funny
My obsession with the holy matrimony,
But I'm just so amazed to witness true love.

15Steps 09-09-2008 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 514533)
19. Phil Elverum
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2002.jpg

This is how you get ladies.
YES

i love the microphones.

Dr_Rez 01-11-2011 07:32 PM
Get this thread rollin again.

sleepy jack 01-12-2011 09:00 PM
I don't have this list anymore, but I think the next 16 was suppose to go something like this:

16. Sad guy
15. Sad guy
14. Sad guy
13. Sad guy
12. Sad guy
11. Sad guy
10. Sad guy
9. Sad guy
8. Sad guy
7. Sad guy
6. Sad guy
5. Sad guy
4. Sad guy
3. Sad guy
2. Sad guy
1. Sad guy

Dr_Rez 01-13-2011 07:47 AM
haha I thought i noticed a pattern ;)


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