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I simply think your attempts to phrase your personal opinions as objective statements of fact are misguided and silly. There are no objective ways to classify certain types of sound "music" and some as "noise." All of your quoted dictionary definitions incorporate subjectivity. Whether a harmony and melody agree is subjective. No music theorist on Earth would say that you can decide objectively whether they do or not. So, sure...your opinion is that they do not and that Radiohead isn't music. That's not a fact, though. I'm not sure what you want in terms of explanation for why people who like Radiohead find the music lovely. Subjective experiences can't be described in a way that will make someone who doesn't share the same perspective understand it, generally. |
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As for Radiohead, I will give some thought to it to see if I have anything I can think of that may be of use to someone who doesn't like their work but wants to understand it. |
I'm trying to wrap my mind around how Radiohead could not be music. Their songs have melody, harmony and rhythm, I think even using a conservative definition of music, they easily fit the bill.
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I'm guessing you heard Kid A or Amnesiac which are more experimental sounding. Both those albums still fit the conservative definition of music (rhythm, harmony, melody) that I mentioned earlier though.
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First things first; I hate Radiohead. That said, as unpleasant as I may find their brand of noise/pop/rock/whatever, I would still call it music. Forget what the dictionary says; as some people pointed out, defining music as "pleasant" makes the entire exercise subjective.
Some people say that rap music is an oxymoron. Fifty years ago, those same people would have probably been the ones saying that Elvis Presley wasn't making "music" (or 100 years ago, that Stravinsky wasn't making music...et. cetera). It's the same with Radiohead. You may not like it, but part of the appeal of great music is that it challenges. Not all challenging music is great, but it is a fundamental aspect of music that it doesn't rest comfortably with the status quo. ...and hypothetically, say it's not music? Say it is merely "art" (choose your label). Does that change its value? White Light/White Heat is a great album, whether you call it "music" or "noise." |
i think noise and music can co-exist...
just look at any shoe-gazer music! ....and i dont get that first bit about radiohead being noise...seems a bit silly...the new albums intensely tuneful |
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