and you're a fucking idiot.

ohz noez profanityz

how could you possibly say that wu-tang is a bad hip-hop group.
It doesn't seem possible.

they're not terrible, and they are seminal, i just don't care for old school beats, which is the prime reason i listen to hip-hop, also the delivery of wu-tang is boring (to me), though the lyrics are top notch

they probably deserve to be on the list more than any other hip hop group or artists, but i don't care for them, or "Hall of Fame" lists on forums in the first place

Yeah, I think a few people did that. I dont know wu-tang so I just put N/A.

Led Zeppelin - NO; because there are better examples of bands peddling the same music without the chauvinism (IMHO). They also arguably perpetuated the 'genius' of grown men in lycra jumpsuits grinding their hips to hackneyed solos in front of thousands, and getting paid for it.

Joy Division - YES; for providing us with a poetry and depth of emotion in their music that elevated independent bands of the following decade above the spiritual vacuum of the 80's mainstream.

Elliott Smith - YES; for being possibly the most admired and talented singer/songwriter of recent times.

The Beatles - YES; do I really need to elaborate? For one it's debatable whether this forum would exist without them.

King Crimson - YES; the most consistent, most original and least pretentious of the old progressive rock guard.

Wu-Tang Clan - YES; for undeniably shaping the future of mainstream AND so-called 'alternative' hip-hop; for making ****ing great music and spreading wisdom/understanding.

The Velvet Underground - YES; for being the first band to bring the avant-garde to the pop medium (and connect with so many); for inspiring these succeeding generations to make art.

I'll just ignore those sort of votes, don't worry.

No name calling please or this comes out:

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Ok, here goes:

Led Zeppelin; No; I don't care for extended solos, that cheesy, heavy guitar sound, etc. Plus, had they never been around, the Stone Roses might not have stumbled into the disaster that was Second Coming.

Joy Division; No; I planned to vote yes because New Order was so great and JD did have a few good tracks, but overall their oeuvre is bland and fairly unexciting.

Elliott Smith; No; Not really into the indie folk thing here.

The Beatles; No; What's the big deal? Their lyrics are lame and the tunes are great for the first dozen times. After that they get really old.

The Velvet Underground; Yes; Their first two albums are classics.


I didn't vote for King Crimson or Wu-Tang Clan because I'm not really familiar with them.