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Mojo 12-18-2008 07:40 AM

Hallelujah
 
This week I find myself interested in the singles chart for the first time since I was about 12. For those who arent aware, or for those who are outside of the UK the Leonard Cohen song 'Hallelujah' was chosen last week for this years X Factor finalists winners song. The X Factor is the standard God awful reality tv show we get every year, much like American Idol and pretty much guarantee's a Christmas #1 regardless of what song is chosen or who it is that wins it. However due to the winners song chosen this year there are now three versions of it in the top 40. The widweek charts place Alexandra Burke at #1 but Jeff Buckley at #3 and even Leonard Cohen at #34. I cant help but be slightly perplexed at having Leonard Cohen and Jeff Buckley in the Christmas chart, even if 90% of the rest of it is utter **** as always.

Surely this has never happened before? Has anyone heard this chicks version of this song? If i close my eyes I can almost hear Mariah Carey having a go at it she belts it out so loud. It sends shivers down my spine, and certainly not in a good way!

Sneer 12-18-2008 08:20 AM

I have so far managed to avoid hearing it and i plan to keep it that way. It says a lot about our society that every year these idiots reach no1 at christmas

right-track 12-21-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 565748)
Surely this has never happened before? Has anyone heard this chicks version of this song? If i close my eyes I can almost hear Mariah Carey having a go at it she belts it out so loud. It sends shivers down my spine, and certainly not in a good way!

She sounds nothing like Carey.

Cohen sings it with feeling.
Buckley barely sings it with any feeling whatsoever.
Burke sings it with heart and soul. And vocally this is the best version there is.

Now I hate myself.

jackhammer 12-21-2008 04:11 PM

I think the song is over rated in the first place personally.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-21-2008 04:26 PM

You just know this song is suddenly going to miraculously appear in those best songs of all time lists in rubbish magazines from now on.

right-track 12-21-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 567550)
You just know this song is suddenly going to miraculously appear in those best songs of all time lists in rubbish magazines from now on.

Hallelujah! :(

Mojo 12-22-2008 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 567550)
You just know this song is suddenly going to miraculously appear in those best songs of all time lists in rubbish magazines from now on.

The Buckley version already does, especially in the likes of Rolling Stone and Q etc

Mojo 12-22-2008 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 567540)
She sounds nothing like Carey.

Cohen sings it with feeling.
Buckley barely sings it with any feeling whatsoever.
Burke sings it with heart and soul. And vocally this is the best version there is.

Now I hate myself.

What I mean is the style in which she sings it. It just sounds far too big and too powerful. X factor bias aside for a moment it is the opposite of the reason I like the song to begin with. It always sounded best when done in a very intimate way to me. The smaller the better.

Piss Me Off 12-22-2008 05:20 AM

A bigger voice is better as far as these shows go.

I haven't heard it but while i like Jeff Buckley i'm not big on Hallelujah. Too overplayed i think.

Mojo 12-22-2008 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 567771)
A bigger voice is better as far as these shows go.

I haven't heard it but while i like Jeff Buckley i'm not big on Hallelujah. Too overplayed i think.

Its frustrating as a Jeff Buckley fan to have his most well known (only well known?) song be a cover that has been covered by 17,000 other artists too but I still love it.

spark10036 12-22-2008 06:03 AM

well I think Jeff Buckley's live performance on "Live at Sin-e" is the best version. but as mentioned before in this threat, it is a shame that it's his most well known song, cause he honestly has better songs, which he also wrote, and it's also a shame that the songwriter Leonard Cohen doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Mojo 12-22-2008 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 567778)
well I think Jeff Buckley's live performance on "Live at Sin-e" is the best version. but as mentioned before in this threat, it is a shame that it's his most well known song, cause he honestly has better songs, which he also wrote, and it's also a shame that the songwriter Leonard Cohen doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Personally I dont like the original. I like a few of the covers of it though. But do you really think he doesnt get the credit he deserves? Jeff Buckleys version is so popular that I'm sure there are people out there who dont know its a cover but I've never met a Buckley fan who didn't know that.

Bulldog 12-22-2008 10:59 AM

It's not exactly one of my favourite songs. Even Cohen's original (which I think is the best version) isn't exactly one of his best.

right-track 12-22-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 567828)
It's not exactly one of my favourite songs. Even Cohen's original (which I think is the best version) isn't exactly one of his best.

Cohen's is the most memorable, if not the best version. Buckley's is mostly forgettable and I like him the most between these 3 artists.
I've already said that Burke sings it best in my opinion, despite what the X-Factor knockers say.
But when I hear this song, even after hearing Burke on the radio for instance...in my mind I always hear Cohen singing it.
Thankfully, it's the only thing that stops it getting on my nerves through overplay.

Janszoon 12-22-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 567828)
It's not exactly one of my favourite songs. Even Cohen's original (which I think is the best version) isn't exactly one of his best.

I totally agree. Cohen has a lot of far better songs. And honestly, considering who wrote it, the lyrics really aren't that great. I don't know why people seem so obsessed with covering it.

Bulldog 12-22-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 567847)
Cohen's is the most memorable, if not the best version. Buckley's is mostly forgettable and I like him the most between these 3 artists.
I've already said that Burke sings it best in my opinion, despite what the X-Factor knockers say.
But when I hear this song, even after hearing Burke on the radio for instance...in my mind I always hear Cohen singing it.
Thankfully, it's the only thing that stops it getting on my nerves through overplay.

Completely agree with you there. Buckley's is a bit of a throwaway (no idea why so many people idolise it). As for Burke's, I'm a bit of an X-Factor knocker myself, but she does sing it with a lot of heart and passion, so I'll give her that. Cohen's original is the only version I've heard which sounds like a properly-formed and thought-out song, and is a lot better for it.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 567849)
I totally agree. Cohen has a lot of far better songs. And honestly, considering who wrote it, the lyrics really aren't that great. I don't know why people seem so obsessed with covering it.

Bit weird eh. I'd have thought a song like Suzanne or Story Of Isaac would suit being covered by countless artists a lot better.

debaserr 12-22-2008 04:11 PM

i prefer halleluhwah

Janszoon 12-22-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87 (Post 567951)
i prefer halleluhwah

ba-da-boom

CrackledNitro 12-23-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 567849)
I don't know why people seem so obsessed with covering it.

I think it's because people love to get all melodramatic with it. It's so easy to close your eyes and bellow out the crescendo of each and every verse. Even I've been guilty of that.


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