William DuVall: new Alice In Chains singer (lead singer, indie, great songs)

daren/MRI · 12-28-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

I guess if he's good they'll at least maintain their strong and fairly rabid fan base.

I gotta say though that once groups disband and reform, it probably takes them a little while to regain the momentum they had in their heyday.

exactly my thoughts hence my being worried that the new AIC will be disappointing but i will try to keep an open mind; we'll be the first to know anyway upon 1st listen.

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Originally Posted by scottsy

Reformations CAN work, I think, if the artists are dedicated and aren't just cashing in on the nameplate... so if real passion and a desire to be the "band" once again are fueling the AIC reformation fire - then it could be a VERY good thing.

I for one actually miss them a fair bit.

Us too. I think this topic is especially close to home for me as our ( former now fired ) ex-manager was trying to get me to try out for Cantrell's new AIC 2 years ago when the word got out they were looking for singer to tour again. I told out manager he was nuts b/c I knew that AIC was already looking at Duvall as he and Cantrell are friends in real life...also I would never do that to my other band members ( just get up and leave ) and why..to join an AIC cover band really... no thanks. That's lame.

We're huge fans of AIC and of Layne Staley so I understand why our manager was trying to get me to 'audition' as Layne and I have similar vocal tendencies at times esp when layering harmonies [ listen here
Letters Never Sent ]

but this is also the very same reason I WOULD NOT dare audition ;p as I would feel ridiculous. so my burning question now would be the exact same for Duvall and I would love to ask him how he feels about 'replacing' Layne in AIC.

We've been accused of ripping of AIC before too by listeners especially when we first started playing out.... but I am pretty defensive that if you listen to enough songs you will see AIC influences but MRI has its own unique sound unto itself. Here's a good web radio/streaming source with positive posts about AIC/MRI similarities in the song commentaries. MRI on Mixposure Radio If you like AIC you will probably dig the heavier MRI material. Our CD is also on our website for free download. I didn't want to turn this thread into a self-hype but I am only making exception here as about 90% of all MRI fans are also huge Alice In Chains, Stained, Hurt, and Godsmack fans. And I am not asking anyone to buy anything it is simply FYI for people searching for cool new music.

I would love for Duvall himself to enter into this thread...i think he is at the rope i dunno though about here at mb..but i would love for him to show up and let us all listen to some tracks off new album but then again would Jerry let him lol 'p

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Originally Posted by DJ Phoenix

Nirvana going out and finding a new singer and calling themselves "Nirvana" wouldn't work, you know it, I do, and many who post here do. So, why try to re-create something you know won't work before you begin?

That is how I feel about AIC, Queen ( not working with Paul Rodgers for me ) and others when bands try to fill irreplaceable shoes.

One of the things I admired about Led Zeppelin is that they disbanded after John Bohnam died in 1980. Was the proper thing to do. Page went on to do a lot more in his musical career and even have Bonzo's son play drums on the Page/Plant tour - but Page never tried to replace an old Zeppelin with a new one.

~~Hello, how are you?~~ · 12-28-2008, 08:16 PM

I like you, good posting.

scottsy · 12-28-2008, 08:34 PM

Yeah I guess some of the more successful band reunions have been the ones where the original band had a bit of a revolving cast anyways - take the Pumpkins for example - Corgan and Chamberlin did the bulk of the recording work anyways - and its arguable that this isn't a "successful" reunion yet, too... Same too with Crowded House. Everyone knows they are pretty much Neil Finn's backing band, and he too, revolved different members through the band with each new album - despite the death of Paul Hester (drummer) in 2005, it doesn't change the character of the music greatly - except for the mournful tone as subject matter...

BUT - if there is a core member of the band - like a Layne Staley or a Kurt Cobain, sorta like a bedrock member, the very foundation for which the band exists. If that person is missing, the reunion thing seems kinda like a naff, throwaway idea... almost trampling on history?

Whenever I think of Queen without Freddie Mercury or Guns and Roses without slash, I think it all sounds like a bit of a farce...

Like Ringo and Paul McCartney hooking up to make another Beatles album - it just doesn't wash too well.

daren/MRI · 12-28-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

Whenever I think of Queen without Freddie Mercury or Guns and Roses without slash, I think it all sounds like a bit of a farce...

exactly. & don't even get me started on Chinese Democracy ;p Best Buy was foolish to pre-purchase 1.5 million copies. I think they have only sold about 75,000... the new slash-less GnR sounds like my friends playing with ProTools while tripping. It's really awful...and I love Axl and loved GnR but Chi Dem is such a departure from anything we ever associated with GnR..Axl should have renamed the band...it would have had such a better marketing potential. Its fate was sealed by calling it a GnR album. The fans didn't think so. Also, Axl is completely psycho, unstable & agoraphobic now thus hampering any sort of organized marketing plan for the release.

A great contrast is the latest AC/DC album which already went platinum ( over 1,000,000 sold in first three weeks of release ) Black Ice proves the tried and true adage that you don't try to fix something that isn't broken. AC/DC has basically been putting out the same album for 20 years...but that is what fan expexct when they purchase an AC/DC cd..balls to the wall rock and roll.... imagine putting out an AC/DC album with all synths and loops and samples...fans would revolt big time. This is precisely what happened with GnR and Chi Dem

scottsy · 12-28-2008, 09:07 PM

There is definitely something to be said for not alienating your fan base... and Axl Rose has sure become a master of doing that! I would presume most fans of the original GnR would be standing by their "Slash's Snakepit" and "Velvet Revolver" discs and feeling pretty satisfied that Slash made a huge part of the original band...

The same people probably knew Axl was a **** all along, but nevertheless the rest of the band was chugging along behind him, so it was ok.

But I digress! I think reunions without key members who have either died or burnt their bridges can be somewhat farcical, unless a VERY healthy does of sincerity, respect and above all, orginality are applied.

This is what I hope we see from the new Alice in Chains lineup, because it would be an awful slap in the face to Layne Staley if it wasn't anything good.

daren/MRI · 12-28-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

This is what I hope we see from the new Alice in Chains lineup, because it would be an awful slap in the face to Layne Staley if it wasn't anything good.

perfectly worded.

**Janszoon** · 12-28-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ Phoenix

No one cares....they haven't been relevant in years.

LOL. Didn't you a have a thread about the Cure's new album not too long ago?

lucifer_sam · 12-28-2008, 11:10 PM

He's a wonderful source on bands that matter.

**Janszoon** · 12-28-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

He's a wonderful source on bands that matter.

heh

daren/MRI · 12-29-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

He's a wonderful source on bands that matter.

ha! ;p

12-28-2008, 08:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Yeah I guess some of the more successful band reunions have been the ones where the original band had a bit of a revolving cast anyways - take the Pumpkins for example - Corgan and Chamberlin did the bulk of the recording work anyways - and its arguable that this isn't a "successful" reunion yet, too... Same too with Crowded House. Everyone knows they are pretty much Neil Finn's backing band, and he too, revolved different members through the band with each new album - despite the death of Paul Hester (drummer) in 2005, it doesn't change the character of the music greatly - except for the mournful tone as subject matter... BUT - if there is a core member of the band - like a Layne Staley or a Kurt Cobain, sorta like a bedrock member, the very foundation for which the band exists. If that person is missing, the reunion thing seems kinda like a naff, throwaway idea... almost trampling on history? Whenever I think of Queen without Freddie Mercury or Guns and Roses without slash, I think it all sounds like a bit of a farce... Like Ringo and Paul McCartney hooking up to make another Beatles album - it just doesn't wash too well. __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

12-28-2008, 09:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	There is definitely something to be said for not alienating your fan base... and Axl Rose has sure become a master of doing that! I would presume most fans of the original GnR would be standing by their "Slash's Snakepit" and "Velvet Revolver" discs and feeling pretty satisfied that Slash made a huge part of the original band... The same people probably knew Axl was a **** all along, but nevertheless the rest of the band was chugging along behind him, so it was ok. But I digress! I think reunions without key members who have either died or burnt their bridges can be somewhat farcical, unless a VERY healthy does of sincerity, respect and above all, orginality are applied. This is what I hope we see from the new Alice in Chains lineup, because it would be an awful slap in the face to Layne Staley if it wasn't anything good. __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

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