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jackhammer 02-05-2009 01:14 PM

If You Could Change One Aspect Of Your Favourite Band
 
So what would you change about your favourite band? Surely no one band is perfect enough for you not to find criticism. It could be anything from a band member to direction, album covers etc.

Pink Floyd

Roger Waters. More specifically his gradual taking over the band. To a certain extent we can blame both David Gilmour and Richard Wright for not contributing enough new material towards the end but this then only fuelled Waters to assume more control. A whole band effort after the brilliant 'Animals' would have been very interesting. Instead we got the bore fest that is 'The Wall'.

Next!

Janszoon 02-05-2009 02:22 PM

The Church

Playing it safe. I know a lot of their fans were thrilled by Peter Koppes rejoining the band and by their subsequent return to their classic jangley 80s sound but I disagree with those people. When circumstances forced the band into being a three-piece and then a two-piece in the early and mid 90s it caused them to experiment and move in new directions with their sound. As a result they produced what I consider to be their three best albums: Priest=Aura, Sometime Anywhere and Magician Among the Spirits. Don't get me wrong, their new albums are pretty good too, but I think they'd have been amazing if they had continued trying to experiment instead of playing it safe.

dac 02-05-2009 02:27 PM

Radiohead

Compose a longer song for once. Your longest song (excluding Motion Picture Soundtrack which has like 3 minutes of unexplained dead silence) is Paranoid Android at 6:23. Make your 'Echoes.' I wanna see if you've got it in you.

jackhammer 02-05-2009 02:29 PM

I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band :eek: (The Church)

zappafan23 02-05-2009 02:30 PM

I would have liked to see where the Mothers had gone if Frank Zappa didnt oust the entire band. I realize he hired top notch pros to perform with him, and used different artists depending on what album he was making, but the original Mothers were a great band... We're Only in it for the Money exemplifies this, although all their albums from that period were great...

lucifer_sam 02-05-2009 02:38 PM

Queens of the Stone Age

No, I'm not going to say that Homme should have stuck with Olivieri. He was a terrible bassist. I do wish that J-Ho would concentrate more on QOTSA's material. It seems like all his side projects (Desert Sessions, Eagles of Death Metal, etc.) consume the majority of his time. He's really coming into his own as a songwriter and he can still make worthwhile accomplishments if he puts the effort into them. Also, fire Michael Shuman and get Scott Reeder back into the mix. He was rad.

Janszoon 02-05-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 591267)
I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band :eek: (The Church)

Their biggest song was "Under the Milky Way" back in 88. You may have heard that and just not known who it was. They are kind of a poppy hybrid of post-punk and psychedelic music with a definite Velvet Underground influence in the vocal department. If that sounds like something you might like at all, they're really worth checking out. I'd be happy to help. ;)

dac 02-05-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 591276)
Their biggest song was "Under the Milky Way" back in 88. You may have heard that and just not known who it was. They are kind of a poppy hybrid of post-punk and psychedelic music with a definite Velvet Underground influence in the vocal department. If that sounds like something you might like at all, they're really worth checking out. I'd be happy to help. ;)

I don't know about jackhammer but I'm intrigued... wanna help a brother out?

Bulldog 02-05-2009 02:45 PM

The Fall.

Having seen them live and listened to the album in question many many times, I can say that the 2005 incarnation of the Fall was the best one in years, and sacking the lot of them (except Elena Poulou, for obvious reasons) could so easily have been a huge mistake on Mark E. Smith's part. The band Smith hired to record the next two albums isn't at all bad - I do like both of them, but 2005's Fall Heads Roll is among their best studio efforts and therefore takes something very special indeed to beat it. It's a task Reformation and Imperial Wax Solvent aren't up to (in my opinion of course).

So, yeah, he should have stuck with them in other words.

Janszoon 02-05-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 591278)
I don't know about jackhammer but I'm intrigued... wanna help a brother out?

Sure thing. Keep an eye out for a PM in the next few hours.

dac 02-05-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 591282)
Sure thing. Keep an eye out for a PM in the next few hours.

Cool thanks dude.

gunnels 02-05-2009 04:41 PM

System of a down
Do NOT let Daron do the lyrics anymore.

Molecules 02-05-2009 04:49 PM

Brian Jonestown Massacre

I would have Anton Newcombe change the name to Brain Jonestown Massacre

lucifer_sam 02-05-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 591349)
Brian Jonestown Massacre

I would have Anton Newcombe change the name to Brain Jonestown Massacre

They've been in my last.FM recommendations for a while and I've been hesitant to get into them for whatever reason. Any good place to start?

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-05-2009 05:29 PM

Manic Street Preachers

I would have convinced Richie Edwards to take the other 3 with him back in 1996.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 591279)
The Fall.

Having seen them live and listened to the album in question many many times, I can say that the 2005 incarnation of the Fall was the best one in years, and sacking the lot of them (except Elena Poulou, for obvious reasons) could so easily have been a huge mistake on Mark E. Smith's part. The band Smith hired to record the next two albums isn't at all bad - I do like both of them, but 2005's Fall Heads Roll is among their best studio efforts and therefore takes something very special indeed to beat it. It's a task Reformation and Imperial Wax Solvent aren't up to (in my opinion of course).

So, yeah, he should have stuck with them in other words.

Agreed

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Double X 02-05-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 591227)
So what would you change about your favourite band? Surely no one band is perfect enough for you not to find criticism. It could be anything from a band member to direction, album covers etc.

Pink Floyd

Roger Waters. More specifically his gradual taking over the band. To a certain extent we can blame both David Gilmour and Richard Wright for not contributing enough new material towards the end but this then only fuelled Waters to assume more control. A whole band effort after the brilliant 'Animals' would have been very interesting. Instead we got the bore fest that is 'The Wall'.

Next!

The lack of material Gilmour/Wright contributed in the later years is appalling. If Roger had done the same, Pink Floyd may have exhausted and broke up by WYWH/Animals.

khfreek 02-05-2009 05:44 PM

Muse

They'd start evolving already! They haven't changed much since they started (though BH&R shows promise). From the sound of things, their new album just might be more spacey stadium rock, and while I'll probably love it, it won't be anything new on the sonic spectrum.

Roemilca 02-05-2009 06:07 PM

The Sound Of Animals Fighting

The idea of a trilogy was, and is, a great idea, but I just feel like I didn't get enough of this experiment. They're one of the only projects remaining, besides King Crimson. I liked the way the albums were progressing, and I feel that it just shouldn't have ended this way. It feels a bit abrupt to me.

Alfred 02-05-2009 07:13 PM

The Clash

Since you did so much with Reggae, couldn't you have made some more interesting songs in that genre? I loved The Guns Of Brixton, but you needed more like that.

Comus 02-05-2009 07:19 PM

Joanna Newsom:

For gods sakes stop trying to make epics, your short snappy songs on the milk-eyed mender are what made you great. Go back to your cutting lyricism and unique voice and stop trying to be something you're totally not. Be the face of folk, not of ambient bull****.

Stamper 02-05-2009 09:36 PM

This might upset people but I think I would change Thom Yorke's voice. I think I might also change Colin Greenwood's style to maybe a bit more melodic/chord oriented. But besides that Radiohead is basically perfect.

lucifer_sam 02-05-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stamper (Post 591471)
But besides that Radiohead is basically perfect.

NOOB YOU'RE WRONG RADIOHEAD R PERFEKT DUDE THEY R THE GREATEST BAND EVARRRRRRRRRR!1!!!!1!1111111

Stamper 02-05-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 591473)
NOOB YOU'RE WRONG RADIOHEAD R PERFEKT DUDE THEY R THE GREATEST BAND EVARRRRRRRRRR!1!!!!1!1111111

Well they are my favorite band and they are nearly perfect like I said and yeah I would agree they are the greatest band ever haha

dac 02-05-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stamper (Post 591476)
Well they are my favorite band and they are nearly perfect like I said and yeah I would agree they are the greatest band ever haha

Don't mind him, he's just pissed no one else likes QOTSA ;)

What would you change about Thom's voice though? I find that it's his presence that makes Radiohead who they are.

Janszoon 02-05-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dac (Post 591512)
Don't mind him, he's just pissed no one else likes QOTSA ;)

I like QOTSA.

dac 02-05-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 591513)
I like QOTSA.

So do I. I was hoping he'd react to that before anyone else.

Comus 02-05-2009 11:39 PM

I hate QOTSA.

Janszoon 02-05-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 591514)
So do I. I was hoping he'd react to that before anyone else.

Oh. I meant to say I hate QOTSA. Josh Homme can eat my shit.

dac 02-05-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 591515)
I hate QOTSA.

I assumed as much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 591516)
Oh. I meant to say I hate QOTSA. Josh Homme can eat my shit.

:laughing:

Seltzer 02-06-2009 12:29 AM

I'm not really a fan of QOTSA either - I'd rather listen to Kyuss.

Molecules 02-06-2009 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 591359)
They've been in my last.FM recommendations for a while and I've been hesitant to get into them for whatever reason. Any good place to start?

they are gloriously bad really but get that one mate its online>> Tepid Peppermint Wonderland: A Retrospective - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Stamper 02-06-2009 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dac (Post 591512)
What would you change about Thom's voice though? I find that it's his presence that makes Radiohead who they are.

I wouldn't change it by much, maybe just make it a little more full sounding, you know what I mean? I think that Johnny's guitar work is just as much a defining factor for their sound as Thom's singing. But then again who knows they might sound terrible if his voice was different it could ruin their sound.

oh and Josh Homme is a genius, I love QOTSA

gopaldev 02-06-2009 08:58 AM

I guess if Robert Plant could've hit the majority of his notes live, rather than lower them and improv/speak his way through much of their material while posing, I would've dug Zeppelin even more than I do already.

Don't get me wrong, I still think he was an incredible frontman and the band is one of the all-time greatest, but he came off less capable live than any of the others from a technical point of view. Technique isn't everything but when it sounded so bad-ass on tape I rarely got that from him live.

I guess I expected to hear certain songs like ''Rock and Roll'', ''Whole Lotta Love'', ''Dazed and Confused'', ''Stairway To Heaven'' and others closer to their album versions because they were so awesome and the bar was set so high for as to what my expectations were for the live versions.

I don't mind bands changing live renditions, in fact I often like it more, but Zeppelin for some reason came off lack-lustre and sloppy more often than not. Just my opinion. Cheers!

stereolunch 02-07-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 591267)
I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band :eek: (The Church)

"Under The Milky Way" was a great song.


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