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Molecules 04-14-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 40ozCasualty (Post 638183)
Dude, I'm not even a 3rd of the way through the video and already I'm annoyed. GG's whole justification for raping someone is absolutely absurd.

but don't you see it's helping to make them stronger in the event that a REAL rapist rapes them :laughing:

''At his funeral, Allin's bloated, discolored* corpse was dressed in his black leather jacket and trademark jock strap. He had a bottle of Jim Beam beside him in his casket, as per his wishes (openly stated in his self-penned acoustic country ballad, "When I Die")''

lol. he lives on through springer

*discoloured

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-14-2009 05:01 PM

His wishes also included his brother played with his cock in his open coffin, which he did.

40ozCasualty 04-14-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 638194)
but don't you see it's helping to make them stronger in the event that a REAL rapist rapes them :laughing:


I lol'd

The Cat 04-14-2009 05:26 PM

If anyone has seen the movie Trick or Treat then GG Allin is just like the star in the movie a total egotistical fool.

TumorAttitude 04-14-2009 05:36 PM

I guess I'm odd. If I like a mucisian, they can do no wrong in my eyes.
Scott Weiland is (was? can never tell with him) a heroin addicted wastoid, and even has his own ****epedia page, but he can do no wrong in my eyes because I LOVE HIS SONGS.
Lets take the King of Pop for instance. Child molestation. He is a giant punchline, but he just sold out a bunch of shows in England. Whether he was guilty or not, it affected his public image, but not his career. THATS BECAUSE HE'S STILL MAKING THE SAME QUALITY OF MUSIC.
Then look at Axl Rose. Also a giant punchline. He didn't get accused of anything other then being a d*ick, but his career is in the toilet. Most (me included...) agree that Chinese Democracy was beyond mediocre.
So I guess its just quality of music. Am I overthinking this?

The Unfan 04-14-2009 05:38 PM

G.G. Allin is a true showman and for that I respect his act. I do find him to be rather stupid and disagree with his sense of morality. His music is fairly bland too.

The Monkey 04-14-2009 05:41 PM

Depends. I don't give a **** of they do smack or things like that, but if they, say, raped someone (like James Brown did), I have a problem listening to them.

The Unfan 04-14-2009 05:45 PM

Now that I think about it with an example of a band I actually do like; while I didn't start disliking their music I haven't payed for anything by Apoptygma Berzerk since I found out Stephan is a bat**** insane Zeitgiest type.

itscostaaa234 04-14-2009 05:46 PM

i dont rly care if the guy is a ****. ill just get his music free. if i like the band and they r cool ill pay for it.

gunnels 04-14-2009 05:50 PM

I'll only buy albums based on if it's actually WORTH the money that I pay for it.
I actually just bought a Smiths album yesterday. That cyst Morrissey didn't stop me.

spark10036 04-14-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 638248)
I'll only buy albums based on if it's actually WORTH the money that I pay for it.
I actually just bought a Smiths album yesterday. That cyst Morrissey didn't stop me.

what did u call The Mozfather...? :bringit::ar_15s:

gunnels 04-14-2009 06:05 PM

He makes top-notch music, but have you seen him in that trial?
Jaysus.

spark10036 04-14-2009 06:09 PM

just watch any interview of his on youtube...

but you gotta love him

gunnels 04-14-2009 06:14 PM

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...of_refusal.jpg
You DO have to love him. I mean, he looks like such a tool, but at the same time...
I'd hit it.

spark10036 04-14-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 638271)
You DO have to love him. I mean, he looks like such a tool, but at the same time...
I'd hit it.

not following your thoughts...english not that good...greek-cypriot...

gunnels 04-14-2009 06:19 PM

I'm saying he looks like a ****, but a **** I'd suck.

WWWP 04-14-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 638279)
I'm saying he looks like a ****, but a **** I'd suck.

Hahaha

Antonio 04-14-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by itscostaaa234 (Post 638245)
i dont rly care if the guy is a ****. ill just get his music free. if i like the band and they r cool ill pay for it.

haha good logic

spark10036 04-14-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 638279)
I'm saying he looks like a ****, but a **** I'd suck.

ok...hahaha...then we are talking about a whole different kind of love here...hahaha....

Soulflower 04-14-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 637534)
I mean some people i talk to say a band sucks cause their singer's a douchebag or something. what do you guys think?

IMO, if they can make good music, i don't mind if they're just A-Holes.

Sure, just because they act like a ass does not mean they dont make great music. The thing about that notion is most of that applies with popular acts. Most popular acts have ZEROE talent, so the jerk attitude only makes it more worse.

Gareth Brown 04-14-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect (Post 637704)
I use to let it not bother me, but over the years I've started to change that idea. There are certain bands like Mayhem, which I just refuse to listen to or buy their music or even download it because of my hatred towards Varg Vikernes. Another example is The Smashing Pumpkins. Back when I was 16 I use to be a huge SP fan and I was also aware of Billy Corgan's monstrous ego. Whenever I listened to them I had this little doubt in the back of my mind, a little guilty doubt and anger that I'm worshiping this man even though he's a huge douche. One of the things that I like about listening almost exclusively to underground music is that the artists are too small to really have gotten that ego boost, or if they do and are douche bags the media doesn't ever really talk about it so I'm left blissfully ignorant, which I can live with.

Well since he wasn't in Mayhem that seems a little odd.

Alfred 04-14-2009 07:50 PM

Actually, he played bass on at least one Mayhem album, to my knowledge, and Aarseth played guitar on that same album. I wouldn't want to listen to Mayhem anyways, because 1. I don't like black metal, and 2. they're all sick, sick people.

Bootlegs anyone?

crash_override 04-14-2009 10:50 PM

I normally try not to follow artists personal lives, it taints the music.

Dr_Rez 04-16-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 637534)
I mean some people i talk to say a band sucks cause their singer's a douchebag or something. what do you guys think?

IMO, if they can make good music, i don't mind if they're just A-Holes.

If your not living with them who cares.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-16-2009 05:47 AM

I don't particularly care, as long as they're making good music then what difference does it make?

Freebase Dali 04-17-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 639259)
I don't particularly care, as long as they're making good music then what difference does it make?

Likewise.

Sometimes it even pays off. Take the song Hooker With A Penis by Tool. It was written about a fan who accused them of selling out. They wrote the song about him and now the kid is immortalized.

That doesn't really go along perfectly with what we're talking about, but it leads me to my next string of useless words:

I saw this video of a band, can't remember who, who were playing a concert and one of the band members royally tore the ass out of some kid in the audience who threw something on the stage.
Kid got kicked out, but I bet he felt like it was worth it.

mr. goth glam 04-17-2009 06:04 AM

I generally don't care about their personality, but it's always kind of a small, added bonus if they happen to be really awesome in addition to making badass, brilliant music.

simplephysics 04-17-2009 06:23 AM

Truth ^.

Take Daniel Johnston for example, he has such enigmatic & unique personality, I imagine it would be a bit difficult to fully absorb his music without knowing anything about his mentalities.

Bulldog 04-17-2009 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. goth glam (Post 640086)
I generally don't care about their personality, but it's always kind of a small, added bonus if they happen to be really awesome in addition to making badass, brilliant music.

Agreed.

On the whole I don't give it a second thought. The personality factor's never stopped me listening to the music of Elvis Costello, Mark E. Smith, John Lydon, Paul McCartney and so on.

And it's not some moral standpoint that makes me hate Skrewdriver and GG Allin - I really do find their music to be pretty damn lame, regardless of characters behind them.

Keigh 04-22-2009 07:28 AM

My attitude is as long as an artist makes great music and I don't have to personally deal with them, then they can be the biggest ****s in the world. I agree with Bulldog. I'm a big Elvis Costello fan despite his racial remarks which still bother me. The work he did with The Attractions is my favorite period and there's some great music I can't turn my back on.

One of the downsides of my job as a limo driver is that I sometimes meet celebs, artists or pro athletes and alot of them turn out to be ****s. It really sucks when it's someone you've looked up to. Fortunately Ive only met a couple of my idols so far and maybe only one was kind of a ****.

coryallen2 04-22-2009 07:30 AM

Any rock star is a potential ass. Look at what they do for a living, I mean the "rock" image is "it's my way or the highway" basically. But some are pretty swell guys.

Strat HD 04-22-2009 07:36 AM

I have heard people say they don't like this artist or that artist cause they are to political. Don't matter to me. Though it would be nice if they left their political views at home. The same way the audience does. We go to hear music not politics.

levelplayer 04-22-2009 02:47 PM

it matters if you go to see them live obviously but apart from that its all about the music

SceneSalsa 04-22-2009 04:04 PM

Obviously it's nice when good music is made by good people, but who cares if that's not the case? I mean, you're hardly likely to listen to something you think is **** just because the person making it is nice, so why should it apply the other way around?

Shoe 04-22-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Strat HD (Post 644030)
I have heard people say they don't like this artist or that artist cause they are to political. Don't matter to me. Though it would be nice if they left their political views at home. The same way the audience does. We go to hear music not politics.

Well I mean if its political punk.... and they leave the politics at home... then what?

Strat HD 04-22-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoe (Post 644429)
Well I mean if its political punk.... and they leave the politics at home... then what?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........everyone goes home ?

lucifer_sam 04-22-2009 09:24 PM

sounds like what usually happens anyways.

christ i hate RATM.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-22-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect (Post 637704)
Billy Corgan's monstrous ego.

This is news to me.

DearJenny 04-28-2009 11:29 AM

I actually have a thing for self-righteous, arrogant a-holes with a god complex. Take MSI for example. Jimmy Urine is a dick, no doubt about it, but I love his stage presence. Most self proclaimed "rock stars" are dicks, and I love it. If I got famous in music I'd be a total raging diva.

addiee_x 04-28-2009 04:38 PM

I can enjoy and respect good music even if I can't respect the artist.
Like, Chris Brown, for example. I enjoy his music, even after the whole deal with Rhianna. I do not, in any way, respect Chris Brown as a person. But...his music is dope.


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