The 100 Greatest Songs of All Time (List Snipped)
 

I snipped the list to prevent further obnoxious posts.


I thought not to add any jazz or classical pieces, as I regard those more as "works" rather than songs. A classical piece is often too dense and complex to be regarded as one entity, so it would not have a place here.

Are you sure this is not a Rolling Stone magazine top 100 or maybe Radio 2? There is not one single song I have NEVER heard. Top 100's where I don't know a few tracks float my boat a lot more. A grand total of 2 would make my top 100. I swear I have seen this list before.

I made this list by myself and with the help of the toribash community.

See, now the problem with top 100 lists is that there are so many factors in determining a song's worth. Certainly, an important factor is a song's popularity, and another its influence. Had I chosen fantastic songs that weren't well known, which there are many of, I would have had to disregard both popularity and influence.

Sorry if the list was offensive to you, but with my point in mind, does it make more sense?

These two things have no bearing on great songs for me.

These lists confuse me...what is their purpose? If they are not your personal favorite songs, than what is the point? I'm curious...not bashing. So they were popular, and influenced other artists? It's just like any list you could find in a magazine, like jackhammer pointed out.

Purpose? Why, there is of course no purpose. But does that matter?

Regardless, it is fine that you do not find my aforementioned factors important in determining a song's worth, but it was under that pretense that this list was made.

Not saying those were the only factors here, but they did have some bearing on the outcome.


With that point established, how is it? I would appreciate some feedback that actually relates to the song selection.

Greatest implies 'of the highest quality'. So of course if you're going to make a list of the most influential songs of all time, and then decide to give it a completely misleading title, people will be peeved.

If you're deciding to go by influence, the list is mediocre. No classical music and no early blues FTL

It's just a list of songs.

I see no reasoning or explanations as to why they're in the order they are. No personal stories you might have as to why you may have made a song as highly rated it is.

So you think Stairway to Heaven is the 2nd best song of all time? Well great, but why? What makes your reasoning for it being there any different to the millions of other lists that have that song in it?
Is it there because they all put it in so you felt obliged to put it in your own?
Does it represent something special to you which is why it's there?
Is it there because you somehow feel not having it there makes this list somehow lacking in credibility?

We don't know any of this , so what's there to discuss about it?

Freebird!!!

and how is this a problem? you mean that you are making a list that really isn't that personal to you at all?

If I made a top 100 it would be purely for selfish reasons and for me and me only . I would not take ANY other criteria into the list making except for my own preference. A song's popularity is never a factor if it's your own list.

The way I saw it was like this. Upon noticing a song that you or anyone else believe should not be in its spot that it is on the list, you or anyone else could dispute it by questioning its merits.

I shouldn't have to be the one doing all the work

o7

You still haven't made a clear distinction on whether this is the list of your 100 favorite songs or the 100 most influential songs of all time, so we can't discuss it.

Though either way it's a shitlist ;)

yes let's all criticize the newbie who makes a puts concern and effort into his first posts. why can't more people be like coryallen?

you guys are wankers.

it's a good list, some choices are a little generic, others i hate altogether but i won't hold that against you. ;)

**** it.


Everyone here is either idiotically mainstream or pretentiously alternative.


I'm out.

Where did you get that idea?

All the artists mentioned here have the largest following on the board, I think we were a bit harsh on this guy.

Give us another chance dude.
I think we're just a tad grumpy today. :)

There is no doubt that many of the songs on the list are great songs and by artists many of us enjoy. It's just that it's an expected and tired list, and could have come from anywhere. It's practically a classic rock station's playlist (not all of it, of course). There's just really nothing much to say about it.

I don't wish the guy away, though.

Greatest doesn't just imply highest quality, that would be more like 'best'. The meaning of the word tends to shift in context, and I think including influence and popularity is actually fairly appropriate when talking about 'greatest songs'.

Hogwash. We must hate what's popular.

Or love it too much.

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Was that an insult?

This

So you're basically insulting me for liking a lot of popular music.

What?

I thought your Hogwash post was a humorous pisstake of the OP, which I continued, we basically recreated his "I'm out post". It was for the lulz, read back and see.

Oh, well I didn't read that post. Sorry about that.

I thought we were going at it again for a moment there.

Still want to fight?

Well, I'm gonna go to bed now.

So lets say, tommorrow night, 8 PM sharp, in the Krogers parking lot.

By the ancient laws of combat, I accept the challenge of the so called "natives." They plague our people at every turn, but from this day out, they shall plague us no more. For let it be known, that the hand that tries to strike us from this land shall be swiftly cut down.

No one criticised. I pointed out that it's a very mainstream list and has almost certainly been cut and pasted from somewhere. Nothing wrong with that. Quit with the name calling thankyou.

it was a term of endearment. :)

Its easy to contribute but I dont think its possible to name a 'greatest song of all time' as there are so many different styles of music & it really is just down to personal taste at the end of the day.
But If I had to pick one it would most definitely be this, just for the simple fact it is the only song I listen to at least once a day without fail.


EDIT: I hadnt noticed up till now but in the videos for the song they cut like half the intro, half on Santana's leadwork, half of the flute parts..
Heres a link where you can listen to the song in full and no bullshiit editing. http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Healer/3818843

Well, although the lack of jazz is disheartening, I'm not going to bash the list. People who don't know anything about what constitutes decent music have to start somewhere after all.

You're sensitive enough not to bash an inanimate non-sentient list, but feel it's ok to count Ric in as one of those "People who don't know anything about what constitutes decent music" ...oh the irony

Ironic how? Putting aside whether or not he copied+pasted that list (though it seems likely), I don't think his taste is that varied because I don't even see Miles Davis there. I mean, if even Rolling Stone have the decency to put Miles Davis on a top songs list, what does that say for this guy?

Cause, sorry to say, regardless of your particular preferences in music if you don't like even some jazz music then you are effectively cutting yourself off from, including groups influenced by the genre from the late 1800's to 2009, a lot of incredible stuff that encompasses a great majority of both non-experimental and experimental music that's been done in the last eighty years. The only things that goes back further and have more reach are classical and world music.

Your right about Jazz, but to be honest I dont think there are a lot of Jazz heads on here. This is one of my favourite Jazz albums.
The beats on this album are f*cking infectious!




Happy now?