let's not get ahead of ourselves.

if you're referring to bands like Caribou/Manitoba, then yes. i don't know if i've seen any more than two or three good bands to come out of that movement.

As you well know, I exist in a constant state of "ahead of myself", aaaaand that depends on what we're claling indie. I happen to think YYY's, My Morning Jacket, TVotR, and DBT are great.

I also include the alt-country folks since their appealing to the same artistic sensibilities. So Ryan Adams, Neko Case, Sarah Borges, Lori McKenna, Wilco.

The first 2 pages of this thread are failblog.org worthy :)

Really? Really? Funny, I think you're having a hard time distinguishing complete ignorance with simply a different opinion than yours. It would also help if the poster had no ability whatsoever to validify his/her statements with clarification or expansion on the topic for you to be able to make that statement, but I'm pretty sure I did do those things to an acceptable extent. If you'd actually like to debate with me on this - or anything - let me know.

Try not to get pissy.. you'll make alot of friends if you just laugh things off.

I'm not trying to get mad at people, I just think people are taking advantage of this sudden onslaught of "LOL U FAIL" towards me when, as far as I can see, I actually tried to make people understand my rational for my original statement instead of sticking to substanceless biases and a refusal to acknowledge any other opinions. I don't mind laughing it off, but it seems a lot of people are laughing at me, thinking they are a higher musical authority, they could do better. Maybe they can, I don't know, and I have no problem with that. Like I said, I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, I love that, and I have no problem with joking around with people about those differing opinions, but when someone attempts to claim that they are superior and not just different in terms of musical opinions, then I get sorta pissed.

I'd say you might be over-analysing just a touch, I don't think anyone finds themselves superior to you. But I completely understand and unfortunetly when people see others joking they think it's a free-for-all and spam it up.

I'm WAY superior to popsounds.

Never mind, I guess you were right :rofl:

I feel for you man. One of the things you've got to realize about this place is that half the people here go into threads they like, give a decent opinion, and try to enjoy the debate.

The other half thinks its a jungle gym to try out their defeatest one-liners and couldn't care less about the topic at hand. Its not that they think you're opinion sucks, its that they don't have one and they respond with douchey-comments.