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dac 07-30-2009 12:27 PM

Davey Moore's (along with many other posters here) writeups alone are better than anything I've ever read in any magazine or on any website.

boo boo 07-30-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 711896)
Davey Moore's (along with many other posters here) writeups alone are better than anything I've ever read in any magazine or on any website.

Yeah, I'd say most people here are better at describing the music than Christgau, Sheffield or any of those douchebags.

But I have to say I don't consider myself to be very good at reviewing albums, I have a habit of just describing the music in a very specific way and don't really try to make analogies or stuff like that.

But I consider that to be better than not talking about the actual music at all, which is my main problem with magazine music critics, or anyone who tries to emulate the style of those critics.

Pitchfork especially do those kinda impersonal reviews that are not concerned with trying to get you into to the albums at hand, it's just some good ol' ego stroking based on whatever obscure music they discovered that they know is gonna inspire a bunch of idiots to rave about it regardless of how indisputably horrible it is. It's like they're trying to be as pretentious as humanly possible.

Engine 07-30-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 711695)
And thus this makes "professional" music critics pretty much worthless, then again they always have been. Obviously most of them wouldn't know good music if it bit them in the ass so consumer advice is obviously not what they excell in. So what is their job? If it's being a huge music snob that doesn't know sh*t about the subject, then they earn every penny.

Their job is to get bring attention to whatever organization is paying them. More attention = more advertising $$ so if music critics get attention (for any reason) they are earning their keep.
It's all just business. Employers of critics give no sh*t about the critics' opinions or their writing.

lucifer_sam 07-30-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 711894)
Music journalism is something I'm very passionate about. I'd love to right for a magazine one day but for now I'm writing for blogs and such.

"Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read."

gunnels 07-30-2009 01:05 PM

^^^
I was just about to post that. Just not directed towards anybody.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-30-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 711706)

Lester Bangs told unsuspecting people that Metal Machine Music was the best album ever made

It is.

jackhammer 07-30-2009 02:49 PM

Why worry? I take no notice of reviews by professionals and I have never visited allmusic or read much on Pitchfork. In this day and age of downloading it's easier to just download and judge for yourself. The only people I take notice of are people who post on forums or blogs etc. I put my faith in them a lot more.

someonecompletelyrandom 07-30-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 711915)
"Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read."

Good thing I don't want to be a rock journalist. Jazz is my thing :)

Piss Me Off 07-30-2009 04:02 PM

I think the problem with music critics isn't so much them themselves but how they are perceived as having to be a musical honcho who's opinions are the be all and end all. I take reviews off of Allmusic and the like as equal to the ideas of someone on here, at the end of the day it's all opinions no matter how eloquente it is. We get classic rock bores like Christgau here all the time but i wouldn't give either of them a harder time, even though i don't share their ideas. The fucker's have to get some credit because most of them end up getting paid!

IHuman 07-30-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 711697)
Robert Christgau, does this guy even like music? Honestly every review Ive read by him he makes the album sound like its crap yet he gives it an A. I dont think I've ever read anything by him saying something positive about an album. Fuck this guy.

i only came across RC when i heard on the radio he'd slammed Macca's Ram. I read the review and it was harsh. Then i came across hiim again when i read the review from the link on wiki for Alan Parson's Project-Eve album which he accused of being misogynistic. I've not heard it so i can't comment. I have heard Ram though and it's a great inspired and thoroughly enjoyable album as is the easy listening version Macca recorded as Percy 'thrills' Thrillington


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