Beato seems like a nice enough guy but boomers gonna boomer, also his fanbase is the WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORST. Sometimes I wonder if he's just pandering to his audience of angry crusty old white guys when he makes those kinds of videos. Why is it so hard for people to focus on what they like and stop whining about what other people listen to?
Btw that video is nearly a year old and other YouTubers have since responded to it, here's a good one. |
Who's right & who’s wrong discussions about music are sometimes delusional. The idea there’s some kind of objective standard against which to judge a tune, album, symphony or whatever sadly fuels too much arrogance and too many arguments. OK, I can’t stand Dixieland or Punk for instance but all I’m saying is they give me the horrors. I’m happy if they make somebody else happy. Just don’t expect me to stay in the same room someone is playing the Sex Pistols full volume. OK, I’ll stick my head on the chopping block revealing the Salvation Army Band that stumbles into the final movement of Beethoven’s 9 Th. gives me the shi*s all I’m saying is I can’t stand it. If for some unfathomable reason (to me ) it takes someone else to heaven that’s OK.
On the other hand broad claims such as ‘Today’s music is so boring’ may have some validity given for instance the evils of autotune and the often absurd overindulgence in digital effects. |
I can agree with some of your points. Sex Pistols aren't my thing either, but I get their appeal. I won't judge. In fact, if I'm a passenger in a car with someone who likes mumble rap, I won't say anything. They're driving. By law, they have control of the stereo system.
I don't think today's music is boring. I find there is a lot of sifting that needs to be done. People turn me on to new bands that offer fresh spins on the types of music I like. A good example of this is the 80s rock revival happening in Sweden and Finland. |
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I worry about what my kids will listen to. At the local park, I hear kids singing that talk about Bruno song. Drives me nuts!
At home, one kid is singing Frozen. A little girl wanting to be Elsa makes sense. The other one Rick Rolls me a dozen times a day. I can't really complain about that. I interrupted one of his rolls with some classic AC/DC. He was NOT happy with me. It's clear that I'll have to work hard to change his musical allegiances. Thank goodness I have control of the stereo for another 11 years, at least! |
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Music peaked in 1983 and this is proof.
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I thought this was released around the same time. I'm horribly wrong (1978).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn73Wtem0No I can't argue with the Dog Police. Is the lead singer named McGruff? |
We hear a great album and it seems entirely in the zeitgeist. Then time goes by new records are loved, and we look back at the day when we heard said album, but it’s no longer in the zeitgeist. Did I use the word zeitgeist enough
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I know variants of 'core' have been on the metal scene for awhile now, and surely location matters here.... but all the new bands cropping up around me in their 20s are playing this garbage. Never cared for it. I miss the 90s/ early 2000s, when trad and doom may not have been the primary genre, but were at least in a bit of a heyday. So much excellent music throughout that period.
Honestly and truly though, nobody with a little time to explore can complain about any absence of genre. The musical landscape is easily navigated these days, and full of exciting new things. It's just a matter of what's more popular - going off the beaten path is Always an option, and you'll always find something new around the corner. |
People who say they don't like metalcore are like people who say they don't like pizza when they've only ever had Pizza Hut.
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That's palatable - but it's also a pale shadow of several thrash songs, thus not even a true representation of the metalcore genre. Why listen to core that's tipping a hat at thrash, when I can just listen to actual thrash?
I guess that's always been my beef with metalcore, really. It's always either heavily punk influenced - and I don't like the vast majority of punk music - or it's stepping so far from the actual definition of the genre that you could hardly call it core anymore. Everything isn't for everyone, bud. |
They were literally the first metalcore band. It started as basically a second version of crossover thrash in the early 90s and by the time you ever heard the genre it had become so influenced by In Flames that it wasn't even recognizable.
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it's simple, most people get stuck in a time warp during the best time of their life, usually late teens early 20's why? because thats the time in your life when you had all/most of the privileges of adulthood but very few of or none of the responsibilities of adulthood I call it "life's sweet spot" and what ever you listened to at that time in your life holds a special place in your mind.
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Away with your hatred of metal. Begone!
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If I had to pick a decade it would be the seventies, but one of the problems for me is that I can only listen to the same stuff for so long before it starts becoming a bit monotonous. I also am aware that there seem to be some songs that I never grow tired of listening to.
I believe there is always good contemporary music out there, and I have found much, but it may require a bit of effort, or if you're lucky maybe the YouTube algorithm will deposit some pearls every now and then. |
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Don't expect an explanation. Elphenor just hates metal, he doesn't think he has to validate or support that belief. If it's not punk it's worthless.
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I wonder what Elph thinks of Motorhead.
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Yeah, you're right.
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The one time I actually listened to a metal album was because a girl made me to. It was some really melancholy Scandinavian stuff and I didn't hate it. It was fine. |
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I've heard that women are, you know, people and are individuals and like different stuff but that's probably just feminist propaganda. Damn feminists, forcing me to cringe hard af reading this thread.
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I hate when that happens.
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Women have tastes in music that are as eclectic and highly individualized as men's. Based on a considerable sample of those young women who are arguably the likeliest to be open-minded and discriminating when it comes to music (college students), I have, however, seen certain patterns emerge: for example, women, as a rule, very rarely enjoy the dissonant, abrasive and repetitive stylings of the likes of The Fall and Captain Beefheart. There are exceptions, obviously. I know IRL a woman who loves The Fall and another who used to be obsessed with Primus. But I would not count on them if music plays a central role in your social identity, including in courtship of women, and you want to score.
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Debbie Harry, the hard rock and metal pioneer
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If most of those people not listening to The Fall heard The Fall they wouldn't like them.
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Yeah you know how the womenfolk always google the lineup of whatever they listen to before deciding how they feel about it.
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I'm gonna post here because I always feel weird about loving so much of the music that was made before I was born. And also because I have a thing about raising the dead. Topics.
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Old or New is all about taste and that's it. For example I really love a song or two by Uriah Heep and Deep Purple but whenever James Taylor comes up on a 60s or 70s channel I immediately get the withdrawal shakes . Gah. I grew up listening to my Dad's HUGE FANTASTIC collection of old albums and stuff. But then Blondie was one of the first singers that got me to looking retro. And then Alvin Lee. One day somewhere around 2012 my older sweetie showed me a youtube clip of Ten Years After at Woodstock. OH. MY. GOD. I freaked out. Alvin was a total MONSTER on guitar and vocals. One of my "top 10 of all time" lists includes the out of this world harmony of Crosby Stills and Nash (Wookstock again!) on Suite: Judy Blue Eyes..... JUST EFFING GENIUS, so many movements and that off the chain harmony. LIVE. Unbelievable. Just the other day I found myself almost mesmerized while listening to the Beach Boys harmony in the song Don't Worry Baby. But really just a mild example of Brian Wilson's genius. Good Vibrations! And my all time favorite 60s Girl Group choon by Ronnie Spector and friends Be My Baby, such a simple song but Ronnie's voice (and her presence and everything) is Killer. ................. So did I just talk myself into agreeing that music is just not what it used to be?........... But then (I ask myself) how about.... and and and ... ummm... :p: :nono: So anyway. All of those songs are "newer" right? NOT 60s or 70s or heavenly 80s. But all of them are over 10 years old. The thing is I just don't know any of the 'new' musicians/groups because I gave up trying to listen to them several years ago. So I think I'm kind of stuck. No I am Definitely stuck in the past because 97% of the new stuff is either soggy milquetoast or just stupid. |
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