The rave movement is a sad excuse for a revolution. Electronic music requires as much human involvement as say, a classical orchestra? Ya right. Post some links of what y'all think is some great electronic music. Ill give it a chance.

Composing electronic music is simply a different compositional paradigm, that's all. The true measure of a music's quality is not the degree of skill that it takes to reproduce it, the amount of formal theory that is involved in creating it, or the amount of practice involved in perfecting it, but rather whether or not it is true to the the intellectual, spiritual, or emotional vision and integrity of the artist.

Composing music electronically is simply a different means of manifesting an artistic concept. It can be as simple as as pressing a button and getting an arpeggiated chord sequence or manually splicing a single note and rhythmically quantizing it to fit within the greater composition, either way, it is a means of expressing the artist's vision. Does learning and mastering an instrument, or learning music theory and mastering the art of composition through it's means justify an artist's integrity anymore than someone who has learned how to compose or produce music electronically? Most who have dabbled and made accomplishments using both methods will tell you that the answer is no.

There are a lot of great examples of electronic music out there where the skill and vision of the artist(s) who produced them are apparent with attentive and critical listening-- I'd personally recommend Flying Lotus' Los Angeles album as a fantastic example of one human's astonishing involvement with electronic composition. DJ Shadow's Endtroducing is another great example and is even in the Guinness Book of World Records as being the first and, to my knowledge the only album composed entirely of found audio samples.

Music evolves much like everything else in this world and in order to gain a true appreciation that you have to understand how the contemporary creative forces at work are a reflection of the larger cultural zeitgeist. That's precisely the case with both Beethoven and Miles Davis, and it's certainly the case with the electronic music that's being created today.

^nice post bro!

you know it's cutting edge music if people dislike it based on outdated emotions.

Electronic music shouldn't be narrowed down to just techno and rave stuff. I think producers are the most innovative musicians right now, easily, across many genres. Unlimited potential when you have access to any sound, who cares how it was created, as long as it sounds good to your brain. computers are the ****.

Dylan got booed for playing an electric guitar, bunch of other examples too that i cant think of. People like to be judge stuff instantly, when its new and different people can't make a easy opinion and assume its inferior.

Whats the definition of an instrument anyway? How is the computer not an instrument and keyboards, synth, turntables, are well established instruments by now.

Its just not music to my ears. Its rather annoying to me. I cant make myself like it. And im sorry for that. Dont hate because I have my own taste and opinion. Ive been convinced that not just anyone can make electronic music, but I still dont like it and probably never will.

Hell yeah. Computers are the ****.

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Did you at least listen to when the bass comes in? Those are some pretty ****ing chunky bass riffs courtesy of Thundercat. Anyway, it's understandable that you wouldn't like it. Most people think Cosmogramma is "too hard to listen to", but it's a grower for sure. You should really check out Satchmo's recommendations. Those are two really good "electronic" albums, though both have a fairly strong hip hop base and they are much more easy to appreciate than the track I posted. Remember, keep an open mind!

P.S. I wanted to know your age because it just seemed to me that if you are of an older generation who grew up with the music of the 50's and 60's, then you would naturally be inclined to prefer that time period in music.

Blastingas, is there any music outside of electronica from the past two decades that you enjoy? If not, why? Computers are not the problem when it comes to other genres of music. What is holding you back from enjoying them?

Im actually pretty young and I always stand alone when I say that I dont like "techno" or electronic music around people that I know. And Ive done ecstasy more than I should have and no matter how hard Im rolling my ass off, I still cant get into the electronic music. Ive actually been told that I was the only young person who does ecstasy that doesnt like electronic music, hah. Let me add that my ecstasy days are over, only on rare occasions will I do it, like at Bonnaroo. Im not much of a hip-hop fan either. Trust me, I used to listen to hip-hop and a lot of other newer music, but then I started discovering all of this music from older generations and now i just dont really care to listen to the new stuff. I actually get tired of being so out of touch with all the music that my friends listen to.

I think I somewhat cover this in the comment above. There are a lot of bands from the early and later 90s that I like. My main distaste lies in music of the 21st century. But the old music is new to me, if you catch my drift. And the new music got old rather fast.

Man, the first thing I noticed when heard Cosmogramma were the bass riffs. I was like, "That's some Jaco Pastorius type shit right there and this is jazz for sure!".

Alright, here are a few examples of electronic music for you to listen to... including a lecture by Stockhausen on sounds and electronic music.