The Official "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore" Thread

Norg · 12-11-2020, 10:57 AM

im currently condensing all my 2* songs shorter maybe then ill listen to them LOL

Norg · 12-11-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Belphegor

People who are young adults/teenagers now believe today's music is good.

People who were teenagers/young adults in the '60s, '70s etc. believed the music from their era to be good.

Any era has good and bad music (the bad significantly outweighs the good though), it's just that since the passage of time conditions us to only remember the good stuff from the past (because the best things inevitably rise to the top with time), we start to mistakenly believe that only the old stuff is worth something. Once this generation becomes old enough, they'll hate the music of the next generation, the cycle never ends.

i like all much (THat is good) from the dawn of time to the present

cept wayy back then music was not put onto a physical thing till recently

well im sure they used to write music notes on stone but that kinda does us no good ...without the equipment

LivingDead_ · 12-11-2020, 07:25 PM

I probably have no idea what I'm talking about isn't it easier for indie bands to get discovered and find listeners today than it was 20-30 years ago? Back then you had local scenes and most people had never heard of any of the bands from outside their particular region until they got really big.

Now its so much easier to self-produce and distribute your stuff online - you don't need be on a record label to get national distribution or marketing through YouTube or even streaming services like Tidal, etc. I listen to tons of bands that I probably would never have discovered if I had to rely on word of mouth or the local music scene or to physically go to a record shop. Its so much easier to both distribute and discover stuff today.

And I feel like some bands may be making less and have to rely more on touring and merch but then there are tons of others who are actually making something now by being available over streaming services.

Norg · 12-11-2020, 07:48 PM

yeah your right any artist trying to make a come up is competing with the ENTIRE WORLD !!!!

its kinda devalued the overall Company of music and brought it back down to its roots in terms of making money

making music has a art form but goodluck getting payed and still gotta work the 9 to 5

unless music is going towards streaming services and onlyfans LOL :P and if u aint popping enough thats little pay cus people can get the same thing for free

LivingDead_ · 12-12-2020, 06:42 PM

Yea but it's not a zero-sum game. If I like a certain music genre I will listen to lots of bands in that genre, not just the best one (however you would define that) The way I find new bands is to listen to bands that are similar to the ones I already like and listen to. So its not necessarily all competition, it can be a way to be discovered. It also pushes bands to be more creative and stand out within their genre.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 07:03 AM

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Yea but it's not a zero-sum game

It kind of is when you factor in our time on earth to listen to music is finite.

**Frownland** · 12-13-2020, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LivingDead_

The way I find new bands is to listen to bands that are similar to the ones I already like and listen to.

It also pushes bands to be more creative and stand out within their genre.

That's a bit contradictory. There's the opportunity to publish "truly" creative music, but artists are more likely to be discovered if they have reference points for listeners to discover them by. The modern music industry might drive creativity but I think it favours creative reworkings of familiar ideas (100 Gecs and Dorian Electra come to mind) as opposed to the avant-garde fringes of creativity. Many artists are working to get on a major playlist since it's one of the only ways to realistically get paid with streaming and these playlists often promote genre uniformity as opposed to the standouts. This isn't totally new but it does seem to be steepening.

OccultHawk · 12-13-2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

part of the punk thing was "steal this record"

but when an artist gotta have a part time job at Best Buy

that's not a revolution, that's just sad

(dat discount on the MacBook the whole thing will be recorded on though)

Anybody working at Best Buy is sad. I wonder if they’re hiring...

LivingDead_ · 12-13-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's a bit contradictory. There's the opportunity to publish "truly" creative music, but artists are more likely to be discovered if they have reference points for listeners to discover them by. The modern music industry might drive creativity but I think it favours creative reworkings of familiar ideas (100 Gecs and Dorian Electra come to mind) as opposed to the avant-garde fringes of creativity. Many artists are working to get on a major playlist since it's one of the only ways to realistically get paid with streaming and these playlists often promote genre uniformity as opposed to the standouts. This isn't totally new but it does seem to be steepening.

Well you can think of it in terms of evolution vs. revolution. Most of the time when I'm looking for something new I'm looking for a new take on genres and musical styles I already listen to and understand. So I'm looking for the next evolution in that formula. And I think a lot of bands are trying to stand out in the genre but within certain identifiable constraints. Then there are the times I'm looking for something totally new and avant garde, for something revolutionarily different. And I think that is obviously more risky for an artist, and has always been. But I feel like there is more creativity overall today, even if perhaps there are fewer revolutions.

I agree with you that a lot of new ideas are just reworkings of familiar ideas but I think that is in part because there is only so much you can do with a guitar or synth or drum machine. There are only so many effects pedals you can combine to get a unique sound, or vocal effects or whatever. And as time goes on it's just harder to do something different that no one's thought of or heard before. There are only so many permutations possible with those tools. So I think that leads to more diversity within genres as musicians put their spin on them rather than creating something totally revolutionary.

guitarstrummer · 03-04-2021, 05:01 AM

Notably, with the amount of music out there and the number of hits that are getting global recognition - less and less music these days is handling hard topics but rather all about fun, sex and teener topics.

The top charts that were filled by pink floyd in the 70s, ozzy in the 80s, nirvana in the 90s are now more about just fun.

What do you think?

12-11-2020, 07:25 PM	#823 (permalink)
LivingDead_ Groupie Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 49	I probably have no idea what I'm talking about isn't it easier for indie bands to get discovered and find listeners today than it was 20-30 years ago? Back then you had local scenes and most people had never heard of any of the bands from outside their particular region until they got really big. Now its so much easier to self-produce and distribute your stuff online - you don't need be on a record label to get national distribution or marketing through YouTube or even streaming services like Tidal, etc. I listen to tons of bands that I probably would never have discovered if I had to rely on word of mouth or the local music scene or to physically go to a record shop. Its so much easier to both distribute and discover stuff today. And I feel like some bands may be making less and have to rely more on touring and merch but then there are tons of others who are actually making something now by being available over streaming services. Last edited by LivingDead_; 12-11-2020 at 07:32 PM.

03-04-2021, 05:01 AM	#830 (permalink)
guitarstrummer Groupie Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 2	Do you think that music should have a purpose other than just entertainment nowadays? Notably, with the amount of music out there and the number of hits that are getting global recognition - less and less music these days is handling hard topics but rather all about fun, sex and teener topics. The top charts that were filled by pink floyd in the 70s, ozzy in the 80s, nirvana in the 90s are now more about just fun. What do you think?

12-11-2020, 10:57 AM	#821 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,344	im currently condensing all my 2* songs shorter maybe then ill listen to them LOL

12-11-2020, 07:48 PM	#824 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,344	yeah your right any artist trying to make a come up is competing with the ENTIRE WORLD !!!! its kinda devalued the overall Company of music and brought it back down to its roots in terms of making money making music has a art form but goodluck getting payed and still gotta work the 9 to 5 unless music is going towards streaming services and onlyfans LOL :P and if u aint popping enough thats little pay cus people can get the same thing for free

12-12-2020, 06:42 PM	#825 (permalink)
LivingDead_ Groupie Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 49	Yea but it's not a zero-sum game. If I like a certain music genre I will listen to lots of bands in that genre, not just the best one (however you would define that) The way I find new bands is to listen to bands that are similar to the ones I already like and listen to. So its not necessarily all competition, it can be a way to be discovered. It also pushes bands to be more creative and stand out within their genre.