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bubu 02-25-2010 09:19 AM

None, I don't think any of today's bands will make the kind of impact The Beatles and all the others made.

I think that in 25 years we'll be talking about the same good music as we are talking now, it just depends a little on the trend I guess.

Neapolitan 02-25-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 830906)
The jury is out on the Strokes, for me anyhow. I like what they do, but what they do is starting to come off like a one-trick pony. Thats fine, but its like Ac/Dc where they have a couple songs people really like and then its just filler for the live show.

Your other three suggestions; Black Keys, White Stripes, and QotSA are likely contenders for endurance. I think most will be recalled by the dedicated few as i don't see any becoming the next U2.

I think U2's legacy split into two: Coldplay and 30 Second to Mars. :laughing: They something to be said about one trick ponies. The Ramones in a way developed a signature sound but were also influential so I think there is room for The Strokes to be influential and to earn a place in history, even though that room is on fire from a lack of output. Talking about one trick ponies, borrowing from literature a way character is describe as being either "static" or "dynamic," I think of bands as being either of two types:

Static - A band like what you would call "one trick pony." They have a "signature sound" and hardy if ever stray from it.
Dynamic - A band that not changes their sound from the beginning of their career but produce something new for each album. Bands I think that not only developed a sound of their own but that experimentand changes musical directions throughout their career are The Beatles or The Clash. (Most bands take time to develope their sound, eventually hit a plateau in their developement and become static.)

Another categoty I forget to mention, but talking about The Strokes brought them to mind.
Sleeper Bands
The Libertines - Sleeper Bands are bands that become ever more popular through time. I feel Television is a sleeper band because I feel people today talk more about them now then back in their day when they were together playing. The Strokes are constantly compared to Television in magazines, I haven't yet come across any one of The Stokes mentioning Television as an influence, but anyway that is the favorite band of the critics to name drop. I think The Libertines will be the Television of the future. I feel critics of the future following the nod of future music-listening public will discover this band and compare every other to them.

Petula07 02-25-2010 10:43 AM

Interesting thread but I have a feeling it's unpredictable...

I guess there are some small differences between Europe and United States.
For example TV on the Radio. I hope I am not blind but I don't know them and I don't have a feeling Europe is talking about them.

See you in 2035 :wave: :D

sidewinder 02-25-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 830905)
I actually agree with lucifer_sam here, Janszoon, and you know me to prefer RHCP BSSM and earlier. But their popularity peaked a couple years ago with 'Dani California' and 'Snow'. If you ask anyone from my generation about the Chili Peppers, you are much more likely to hear about songs from their last three albums than their first three, possibly even more famous than their biggest hit, 'Under the Bridge'. The proof is in the pudding:

Red Hot Chili Peppers’s Charts – Discover music, videos, concerts, & pictures at Last.fm

Other than 'Higher Ground', after quickly glancing over that list I don't see another 80s Chili Peppers song until 'Knock Me Down' at #83. The majority seems to be from the last ten years...

I disagree with both lucifer_sam and Janszoon and believe their popularity peak was in the 90s primarily with BSSM. They were headlining Lallapalooza, which was a huge deal back then, and that's when they started their big stadium tours. Their popularity fell off a bit with the follow-up because it wasn't very good, and then they regained some but their work became pretty mediocre. I can see the argument for their peak being the late 90s or 00s, I mean the masses do love their watered-down rock, but I don't really believe it.

And using the last.fm charts for the argument doesn't really work...was last.fm around in the 80s and 90s to track how many people were listening to them at that time? No...what you've got there is a sampling of the RHCP tracks people have played most since last.fm was created, which I'm going to assume was in the 00s. It's only natural for the more recent or current work to get more plays, as that's what the younger generations are discovering first, and older generations that loved RHCP when they were younger aren't playing those older albums to death like they were when they/we were young. Even so, you've got 4 out of the top 20 songs from BSSM...pretty good representation for a 19-year old album.

Anyway, this really matters not. :D Just sayin.

Janszoon 02-25-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 830904)
I didn't say they were at their best. But that's when they got the enormous stadium venues, headlined major festivals, broke into the mainstream and generally took in the most money. It's like how people associate Pink Floyd with their Wall era rather than the prog rock they performed before that arena crap got thrown into the mix.

I don't think you realize how popular the Chili Peppers were in the 90s. They were already playing stadiums, headlining festivals, and very much a part of the mainstream. I would say it's their 90s-era stuff that's the equivalent of The Wall, their 00s stuff is the equivalent of Momentary Lapse of Reason. Sure their 00s stuff sold well, just like Pink Floyd's 80s stuff sold well, but that's not because they were breaking into the mainstream, it's because they were already a long established mainstream act at that point.

Janszoon 02-25-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 830941)
I disagree with both lucifer_sam and Janszoon and believe their popularity peak was in the 90s primarily with BSSM.

That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.

sidewinder 02-25-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 830945)
That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.

Ah ok, I was under the impression you were saying they were most popular in the 80s.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 830944)
I don't think you realize how popular the Chili Peppers were in the 90s. They were already playing stadiums, headlining festivals, and very much a part of the mainstream.

+1

CanwllCorfe 02-25-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 830947)
+1

+2! RHCP were one of my favorite bands growing up (and I'm a 90s kid)

Neapolitan 02-25-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 830944)
I don't think you realize how popular the Chili Peppers were in the 90s. They were already playing stadiums, headlining festivals, and very much a part of the mainstream. I would say it's their 90s-era stuff that's the equivalent of The Wall, their 00s stuff is the equivalent of Momentary Lapse of Reason. Sure their 00s stuff sold well, just like Pink Floyd's 80s stuff sold well, but that's not because they were breaking into the mainstream, it's because they were already a long established mainstream act at that point.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 830945)
That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.

So basically you are saying the Red Hot Chilli Peppers "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore!?"

Janszoon 02-25-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 830953)
So basically you are saying the Red Hot Chilli Peppers "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore!?"

Yes. But if you think that actually relates in any way to that thread, then you've completely missed the point of that discussion.

missdeathpunch2011.xoxo 02-25-2010 12:31 PM

Anberlin, Stone Temple Pilots, Five Finger Death Punch, Nickelback, Papa Roach, Blink-182, Buckcherry, Motley Crue, Staind, Disturbed, Seether, Nine Inch Nails

Janszoon 02-25-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by missdeathpunch2011.xoxo (Post 830969)
Anberlin, Stone Temple Pilots, Five Finger Death Punch, Nickelback, Papa Roach, Blink-182, Buckcherry, Motley Crue, Staind, Disturbed, Seether, Nine Inch Nails

The OP was asking for bands from the 00s.

Neapolitan 02-25-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 830986)
The OP was asking for bands from the 00s.

Anberlin and FFDP are Naughty 'Aughties bands. And Seether will around for the next 25 years, they're unstoppable - you know what Veruca Salt says "can't stop The Seether."

Violent & Funky 02-25-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by missdeathpunch2011.xoxo (Post 830969)
Anberlin, Stone Temple Pilots, Five Finger Death Punch, Nickelback, Papa Roach, Blink-182, Buckcherry, Motley Crue, Staind, Disturbed, Seether, Nine Inch Nails

The only above bands that I even remotely care about were in their prime during the 90s...

duga 02-25-2010 03:28 PM

I think these guys will still be listened to (maybe a couple had albums in the 90's, but any I list here had their huge breakthrough in the 00's):

System of a Down
Coldplay
Lady Ga Ga (I'm almost certain of this one)
Black Eyed Peas
Eminem
Justin Timberlake
Gorillaz (maybe...but I just wanted to put someone on here I really like)

Sadly, this decade has not been nice to rock or even pop music that I consider good. I hate most of the crap I just listed. Though there are countless bands and artists that I think deserve to be remembered, I doubt it will happen. Such is the state of music today.

Scissorman 02-25-2010 03:41 PM

Lady GaGa? Oh, come on, she'll be forgotten in the next few years.

Bulldog 02-25-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scissorman (Post 831051)
Lady GaGa? Oh, come on, she'll be forgotten in the next few years.

I dunno about that. As much as I can't stand the sight, let alone sound of her, she is a pretty unique performer. I reckon her impression's quite a lasting one myself anyway.

duga 02-25-2010 03:50 PM

^

I really don't think so...not only is her music incredibly popular, but she is very outspoken and has her hand in multiple medias (like fashion). She even gets respect from a lot of music buffs who normally dismiss your everyday pop diva. Hell, I even have a bit of respect for her. The girl is so damn weird, but she does what she wants...

That and as I've said before, she is huge despite looking like a foot.

Edit: this was to scissorman

Scissorman 02-25-2010 03:54 PM

I remember Ciara being huge a few years ago (my roommate kept listening to her album over and over again) and where is she now?

duga 02-25-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scissorman (Post 831060)
I remember Ciara being huge a few years ago (my roommate kept listening to her album over and over again) and where is she now?

I never thought I would find myself defending Lady GaGa...but I find her and someone like Ciara to be on different levels. Lady GaGa is huge because she got herself there...she made a few good connections, but mostly got by on her songwriting and intense personality. Ciara was manufactured.

This feels ****in weird...

Scissorman 02-25-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 831061)
I never thought I would find myself defending Lady GaGa...but I find her and someone like Ciara to be on different levels. Lady GaGa is huge because she got herself there...she made a few good connections, but mostly got by on her songwriting and intense personality. Ciara was manufactured.

This feels ****in weird...

lol


I don't know, I just think Lady GaGa is one of those stars that burn away really fast... I used to hate her because she was all over the TV, but now I'm just indifferent towards her...

sidewinder 02-25-2010 04:19 PM

We'll each do our part if we stop talking about her. :)

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 02-25-2010 04:21 PM

probably the ****ing beatles still

duga 02-25-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 831089)
We'll each do our part if we stop talking about her. :)

As much as I agree with this, if there are going to be endless crap pop singers churned out by the industry, I would much rather prefer her to be on top. As I've mentioned, I hate the music...but I really like her attitude. She's got this kind "I'm awesome...**** you" attitude that I find kind of...hot. Despite her weird looking-ness.

Mancini Scratch 02-25-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 830930)
Sleeper Bands
The Libertines - Sleeper Bands are bands that become ever more popular through time.

Interesting thread started here.

Good point by Neapolitan. Sleeper Bands. Good turn of phrase I'd not heard before.

Some bands do seem to creep up to their "Immortal Fame" or still be talked about 25 years on. The Libertines is an example of a possible. Also I think Elbow could also be a Sleeper Band. A sound that is new and always experimental will go far. Take Pink Floyd for example. Very Experimental but not so Accessible to all. Elbow Experiment but sell music to more and more each day.

Also when a band member dies in a group this can help. Take Jim Morrison and the Doors. Ian Dury. Janis Joplin.

When an artsit dies we all start to see someting we may have missed.

Its sad when an artist gets more appreciated after death...

Jeff Buckley
Nick Drake
Hendrix
Bob Marley

Exceptions to these are people like any of the Beatles, Elvis, Jackson.

LoathsomePete 02-25-2010 06:06 PM

I could see progressive metal fans 25 years from now talking about Orphaned Land the same way we talk about Pink Floyd or Rush. They've really chiseled themselves out a prosperous niche amongst the progressive metal community. Metal with religious themes that aren't overly preachy? Yeah that's something of a rarity, in any genre.

duga 02-25-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mancini Scratch (Post 831144)

Jeff Buckley

Jeff Buckley was headed straight for stardom while he was alive...he sadly died after only making a small amount of music. I think if he had lived, he would have been as recognized (if not more) than he is now. It's just that now that he is dead and all we have is Grace, a few live shows, and sporadic bits of music here and there...people see the genius in just that and give him the credit I have no doubt he would have received regardless.

Mancini Scratch 02-25-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 831163)
Jeff Buckley was headed straight for stardom while he was alive...he sadly died after only making a small amount of music. I think if he had lived, he would have been as recognized (if not more) than he is now. It's just that now that he is dead and all we have is Grace, a few live shows, and sporadic bits of music here and there...people see the genius in just that and give him the credit I have no doubt he would have received regardless.

Possibly duga. We'll never know though.

Grace is a good record and so is Mystery White boy. Got them both. TBH that's all I've heard so cannot comment on anything more he may have done. But what he had was an amazing potential but so has everybody in something be it music or another artform.

That's my point in a way. If he lived and simply decided to stop performing nobody would have give a **** apart from possibly complimenting his couple of albums to date and sporadic bits you mention.

I do realise he was very talented. A wonderful Voice and for me the two versions of Eternal Life on both albums mentioned are amongst my favourite Guitar Tunes of alltime.
As it happens about 5 years ago Urban Hatemonger helped me identify Buckley's Eternal Life.

missdeathpunch2011.xoxo 02-25-2010 07:22 PM

i would say nickelback disturbed or kings Of leon

Rickenbacker 02-25-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by missdeathpunch2011.xoxo (Post 831176)
i would say nickelback disturbed or kings Of leon

She's right. People will always hate Nickelback.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 02-25-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker (Post 831177)
She's right. People will always hate Nickelback.

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 830860)
i ****ing hope not. i'm already sick of hearing about it. yes, we know they suck. no ones saying otherwise. shut up already.

.

Rickenbacker 02-25-2010 08:21 PM

Missdeathpunch2011.xoxo doesn't know they suck.

Rage Against the Machine 02-25-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 831146)
I could see progressive metal fans 25 years from now talking about....

This just reminded me; I think Between the Buried and Me solidified their place in history with "Colors". Its easily the band's magnum opus and the pinnacle of progressive metal as far as I and a ton and ton of people are concerned (its impossible to avoid that band in a lot of places).

Antonio 02-25-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage Against the Machine (Post 831206)
This just reminded me; I think Between the Buried and Me solidified their place in history with "Colors". Its easily the band's magnum opus and the pinnacle of progressive metal as far as I and a ton and ton of people are concerned (its impossible to avoid that band in a lot of places).

agreed! :tramp:

Bobina 02-25-2010 10:05 PM

I really think Jamiroquai was slighted in popularity in U.S. even though they're popular woldwide. Sold millions and been out since '93. Great groovy funky music.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 02-25-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker (Post 831205)
Missdeathpunch2011.xoxo doesn't know they suck.

she probably doesn't know how many fingers and toes she has without looking either. we just make allowances for people like her and move on.

Neapolitan 02-26-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 831253)
she probably doesn't know how many fingers and toes she has without looking either. we just make allowances for people like her and move on.

Read 'em and weep Captain Caveman.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Nickelback ranks as the 11th best selling music act of the 2000s, and is the 2nd best selling foreign act in the US behind The Beatles for the 2000s.

Nickleback - the 2nd best selling foriegn act in America for the naughty aughties, that made them the first best selling foreign act that is still around woo-hoo!

Vancouver 02-26-2010 10:50 AM

I'n not sure there is another band I loathe more than Nickleback. And being in Vancouver makes it a lot worse.

LoathsomePete 02-26-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver (Post 831394)
I'n not sure there is another band I loathe more than Nickleback. And being in Vancouver makes it a lot worse.

Only if you listen to The Fox.

TheCunningStunt 02-26-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver (Post 831394)
I'n not sure there is another band I loathe more than Nickleback. And being in Vancouver makes it a lot worse.

Jonas Brothers vs Nickleback?


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