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TheCunningStunt 04-22-2010 12:28 AM

The Why Are/Is... thread
 
I thought this might be a good idea for a thread (or maybe a really bad one, time will tell ;))

I thought it'd be a good chance for the MB members to ask questions to other members, not to be bitchy or opinionated, just go get some knowledge. So not why are Nirvana so overrated? Or why are Nickelback shit?

Genuine questions that you want to know the answer to.

I'll start..

Why is the album Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain by Pavement considered by some as one of the best Indie albums to emerge from the 90s?

Feel free to ask your own and let the expanding of your mind begin.

duga 04-22-2010 12:33 AM

This sounds strangely like the "Explain Why You Like This Album (Cause I Don't Understand)" thread...

Or did I miss something?

Violent & Funky 04-22-2010 12:34 AM

I like the thread idea.

I can't answer your first question though, because the only Pavement album I have been able to get into is Slanted & Enchanted (which is awesome by the way).

My question would be: why is everything about nu metal considered awful?

TheCunningStunt 04-22-2010 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 854606)
This sounds strangely like the "Explain Why You Like This Album (Cause I Don't Understand)" thread...

Or did I miss something?

Well, I wasn't sure whether it'd be a good idea 'cause other threads COULD cover the subject matters..

But it's a more general thread.

It could be:

Why is the Manchester music scene considered good? Oasis and the Stone Roses were shit.

Why is Kurt Cobain considered the voice of a generation?

So someone who knows a lot about that subject matter could divulge some information.

duga 04-22-2010 12:45 AM

Ah...I gotcha.

TheCunningStunt 04-22-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 854618)
Ah...I gotcha.

It'll probably fall flat on its arse, but it was worth a go. ;) my question belonged in the Explain this album thread actually. I may re post it there. :thumb:

sidewinder 04-22-2010 01:13 AM

Because of that other thread, then, we should make sure to avoid asking things related to specific albums, such as "why is this great...I don't get it" at least. Other questions about the album, that don't relate to not getting it, would of course be alright. Right?

TheCunningStunt 04-22-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 854629)
Because of that other thread, then, we should make sure to avoid asking things related to specific albums, such as "why is this great...I don't get it" at least. Other questions about the album, that don't relate to not getting it, would of course be alright. Right?

Pretty much yeah, I felt like a lot of people don't understand certain things within music where as other people have a good understanding. Maybe other threads about will cover it but you can never be too sure. ;)

mr dave 04-22-2010 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 854607)
why is everything about nu metal considered awful?

i think this is mostly due to the time period nu-metal appeared within the scope of the mainstream. it happened just as napster was taking off and P2P file sharing started having a very noticeable effect on every aspect of the music industry.

it was one of the first styles that was over saturated before it was actually established. the innovators of the style had barely finished wiping the sweat from their gear only to find out their style had already been pre-packaged and shoved down the throats of a new generation of adolescents who were already tired of the breakdowns. it was the last ditch effort to push a new style of music and in an act of probable desperation the labels seemed to use the idea of throwing crap at the wall until something stuck and then just kept throwing more of the same crap before going back to 'safe' pop stars and connect the dot 70s rock a la Nickelback.

by becoming so big so fast only the crap that appealed to the masses got really big (Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) those who would have innovated and done something decent with the style moved on (Deftones, Fear Factory, etc.), whether it's because they no longer liked the style they helped create, or to distance themselves of the whiny self-serving nature that was fast becoming the core of the style, it's anyone's guess but the field seemed to deplete itself quickly.

as a result the terms 'nu-metal' and 'mall metal' are basically interchangeable. the style never managed to break out of adolescent rebellion and truly into its own, and for those who had already grown past that point in their own lives and were looking for a new style of metal/aggressive music were forced to look in more progressive directions, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 854614)
Why is Kurt Cobain considered the voice of a generation?

because he was and that's really all that needs to be said. if you had your first clue of independence by the time the 90s rolled around you'd get it. otherwise, sorry, you'll have to find your own.

TheCunningStunt 04-22-2010 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 854645)

because he was and that's really all that needs to be said. if you had your first clue of independence by the time the 90s rolled around you'd get it. otherwise, sorry, you'll have to find your own.

I wasn't seriously asking why Kurt was the voice of a generation, I just using it as an example. I love Kurt, he was my avatar until I fancied a change today.


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