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Bloozcrooz 01-03-2011 02:11 PM

so
 
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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 940179)
you know i may have to agree with you on some level he is quite versitile when it comes to incorporating different styles of music

but i have to say Justin Vernon










Am i responding right? Not sure if im doing this right?

Husky McDump 01-04-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle (Post 939983)
On many levels, I consider John Coltrane to have reached certain levels of musicality that might never be reached again. His overall dynamic style of playing, mixed with his very spiritual and religious nature made him a force to be reckoned with. Notice how in any ensemble he plays in, whenever he sparks his first note, he takes control of the entire situation. His playing has become so enigmatic and immediately noticeable. He has a tone like no other jazz musician, and is a household name for good reason. Even in his most self-indulgent, overly-spiritual moments, Coltrane's music contains a sense of humanistic realism to it that makes it immediately relatable. Coltrane's late-period avant-garde music is even representative of the time around him, where he was often persecuted for his race, and even his free approach to music which garnered him hatred from some of his peers. Coltrane's music not only defines a specific period of time right down to the bone, but it also defines the human state of mind, which is an eternal thing that won't ever lose impact.

His ability to play fast is one attribute that makes him a very powerful all-around musician, and his ability to do it fluidly and improvised, using the very influences he had at that one moment, is another. I've never heard another musician so unbelievably skilled at his craft, at his compositions, AND at his expressing what was in his heart.

Wholeheartedly agree!

Timless music:


Husky McDump 01-04-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swany (Post 940140)
Rap: Kid Cudi

nope!

all cudi raps about is the transition of being a teen to an adult and saying things along the lines of "hey, those people are judging me, but that's okay I'm content with myself." which is something that each and every adult should have the power to do. It's just apart of life.


Annnd....people who rap about smoking weed 80%+ of the time really dont have anything worth while to say in my opinion.

Bloozcrooz 01-04-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 978686)
Am i responding right? Not sure if im doing this right?

Lol yes yes. Very nice.

TockTockTock 01-04-2011 10:34 AM

This is thread is asking an almost impossible question. "Greatest" could mean everything from mastery of one's instrument to his or her influence on music. Really, each musician is good in his or her own way. Sometimes I don't really understand the point of ranking musicians. Of course, then there are pseudo musicians like that Gaga woman and Justin Bieber... but that's another story.

Bloozcrooz 01-04-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JackPat (Post 979298)
This is thread is asking an almost impossible question. "Greatest" could mean everything from mastery of one's instrument to his or her influence on music. Really, each musician is good in his or her own way. Sometimes I don't really understand the point of ranking musicians. Of course, then there are pseudo musicians like that Gaga woman and Justin Bieber... but that's another story.

Yeah I think it was more or less put out there for you to state your favorite artist or artists. There's really no one way to rank them. But for some their worldwide influence on music and pioneering of some things. Puts them on another level.

Geetarguy 01-04-2011 10:57 AM

He who influenced most: Robert Johnson
Best Musician of all time: Glenn Gould

Bloozcrooz 01-04-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 979284)
Lol yes yes. Very nice.

By the way..I didnt really care for any of those video's.

Sodomy4Hire 01-07-2011 01:32 AM

The greatest all-around musician of all time is Daniel Vahnke, but I can't remember why...

Bloozcrooz 01-07-2011 01:42 AM

The Best there ever was or ever will be

zachsd 01-07-2011 02:29 AM

Including classical, than Mozart wins hands down. Don't see how there can be any argument there.

Contemporary-wise, I would say Charles Mingus. The reason why I'm hesitant is because a lot of his music is reflecting a somewhat strange time in my own life right now, so I might be somewhat biased. But looking at the question logically, I really can't think of many others who would top Mingus. Not only was his skill as a musician amazing, but equally amazing, if not more so, was his skill in leading musicians. Even his recordings on piano are pretty incredible, although there are definitely a few jazz-piano albums that I would place before Mingus Plays Piano (like Village Vanguard, although that is a completely different animal altogether). Albums that really stick out for me though are The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, Blues & Roots, and Let My Children Hear Music.

And I find more spirituality in Mingus's music than Coltrane's, although I think I might be in the minority on that one. Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting completely turns my head around, like a musical high. I love how the scratches on the Blues & Roots recording make it seem like the music is too powerful to be recorded, like divinely sent or something.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-07-2011 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zachsd (Post 981123)
Including classical, than Mozart wins hands down. Don't see how there can be any argument there.

I honestly think Mozart was quite bland. His influence ofcourse is extremely relevant but I feel his compositions are sort of just eh...

Stone Birds 01-07-2011 06:49 AM

i'm changing my answer to peter gabriel

zachsd 01-08-2011 12:19 AM

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I honestly think Mozart was quite bland. His influence ofcourse is extremely relevant but I feel his compositions are sort of just eh...
Not only was his influence tremendous, but his skill as a musician was extraordinary. And I guess I just have to disagree with your opinion that his compositions were "eh":




TockTockTock 01-08-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 981116)
The Best there ever was or ever will be

My favorite guitarist, along with Tom Verlaine and Django Reinhardt. I can tell you, I have around... 100 Jimi Hendrix songs on my mp3 player. It's amazing how much he recorded in only four years! Possibly one of the best bands to ever exist was The Band of Gypsies. Not only is Hendrix one of the best guitarists who ever lived, but I can safely say that Buddy Miles is one of the best drummers. Billy Cox was great too, he could match up with John Paul Jones on base.

TockTockTock 01-08-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by zachsd (Post 981821)
Not only was his influence tremendous, but his skill as a musician was extraordinary. And I guess I just have to disagree with your opinion that his compositions were "eh":




I've always had respect for Mozart, although I've always preferred Tchaikovsky and Dvorak. Of course, John Cage changed everything (but he's in a completely different realm than they are). :thumb:

Dr_Rez 01-08-2011 04:12 PM

Doesnt greatest musician end up being your favorite genres most accomplished? I mean how does one compare Hendrix to Mozart??

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-08-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zachsd (Post 981821)
Not only was his influence tremendous, but his skill as a musician was extraordinary. And I guess I just have to disagree with your opinion that his compositions were "eh":




I don't know. I still think these are kind of eh. I mean, they're not bad, and I can see how they're archetypal to most all later music but just not enough to classify Mozart as the undisputed greatest as his reputation is.



Now, Bartok was ****ing amazing /\.

clutnuckle 01-08-2011 06:00 PM

Beethoven and Bach were the optimal points for classical music in terms of great music, great quantity, and great influence. You'll hear a lot more Bach and Beethoven stemming through modern music than Mozart, even though Mozart is more famous because of his tragic death and his gift of being able to hear music and immediately create a piece out of it. Though Mozart's music is often fantastic, as well.

TockTockTock 01-08-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 982094)
Doesnt greatest musician end up being your favorite genres most accomplished? I mean how does one compare Hendrix to Mozart??

Well, I personally don't think it's possible to find the "greatest" musician of all time, but I do think it's possible to compare Hendrix to Mozart. I don't know if you meant your comment to imply that Mozart is better than Hendrix, so I won't go into that. Besides, don't you think it sort of defeats the purpose of music?

Bloozcrooz 01-08-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 982094)
Doesnt greatest musician end up being your favorite genres most accomplished? I mean how does one compare Hendrix to Mozart??

Mozart had Herpes..Hendrix didnt.:finger:

snagglepuss 01-08-2011 10:20 PM

David Gilmour

Ninjapleeze420 01-09-2011 05:20 AM

To be honest i'd say Robert Johnson but just for ****s and giggles i'm gonna say sid vicious because he got by on image and it was awesome the ultimate **** you I can't even play bass can't sing for **** but I got you under my spell mother****ers haha

Dayvan Cowboy 01-09-2011 07:08 AM

I would have to say Aphex Twin. Deal with it
Some of his earlier EPs weren't good and GAK was a disaster but when you look at his work as a whole, it's pretty awesome.

TockTockTock 01-09-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 982261)
Mozart had Herpes..Hendrix didnt.:finger:

Hendrix probably had everything else. Lol

Bloozcrooz 01-10-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JackPat (Post 982455)
Hendrix probably had everything else. Lol

Probally lol

Geetarguy 01-10-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 982094)
Doesnt greatest musician end up being your favorite genres most accomplished? I mean how does one compare Hendrix to Mozart??

well they taught both of their different theories in my music course I took at college haha

Dr_Rez 01-11-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Geetarguy (Post 983174)
well they taught both of their different theories in my music course I took at college haha

What do you mean exactly?

Dotoar 01-11-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by マイケル (Post 935448)
Todd Rundgren.

Wikipedia Article On "Something/Anything"

"Rundgren played every instrument (as well as sang every vocal) on the first three sides of the double LP, while a band accompanies him on the fourth."

Wikipedia Article On "Hermit Of Mink Hollow"

"Todd Rundgren - Arranger, Instruments, Producer, Vocals."

Props for this one!

Also, one of the most underrated, proven not least by this thread, is Roy Wood. Not that I like all of his output, especially not his 50's sendups, but he could play just about every instrument (and did so on several of his solo albums) and covered a lot of styles on the way as well.

Janszoon 01-11-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjapleeze420 (Post 982383)
To be honest i'd say Robert Johnson but just for ****s and giggles i'm gonna say sid vicious because he got by on image and it was awesome the ultimate **** you I can't even play bass can't sing for **** but I got you under my spell mother****ers haha

So would Milli Vanilli get a vote from you as well then?

Dotoar 01-11-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 983885)
So would Milli Vanilli get a vote from you as well then?

I'd say! He did it even better by doing less! :bowdown:

blackboab 01-19-2011 12:14 PM

if we are talking pop and rock.....stevie wonder has to get a mention...a brilliant multi instrumentalist but....there is only one man in popular music who kills on every instrument you can think of....someone who plays and sings and does almost everything on his recorded work....its prince ....no one comes near him for sheer god given talent....

rocksann 01-19-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beatleszeppelin (Post 862823)
Agreed. IMO, none of The solo efforts by The Beatles stood up to what they made together. Not Imagine, not All Things Must Pass, not Band On The Run.

I think that both John and Paul went on to make fantastic solo music. People make the mistake of wanting them to still be The Beatles, when they are not the Beatles when they are not collaborating. I love both of thier solo works. Especially Paul's Ram, and John's Imagine. ;)

avalonblues 01-19-2011 06:55 PM

Didn't read through all 12 pages. Has anyone mentioned Roger Waters? Driving creative force behind one of the best bands of all time, basically invented genre of progressive rock as well as composing (with some help from Gilmour) some of the greatest albums of all time. I'm not a huge Pink Floyd fan, but try taking some sort of hallucinogen and listening to Dark Side of the Moon and tell me it doesn't blow your mind. Plus, now he's writing operas. Not a flashy bass player, but what he did in terms of experimenting with song structure, tempo, soundscapes etc. in a rock setting was pretty amazing

I saw some people mention Zappa too. He's incredible. So was Lowell George. Jeff Beck is pretty good at the guitar as well, and has done stuff in a lot of different genres. Mozart was ok too

Tops 01-20-2011 08:04 PM

Lauryn Hill!!!!!

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-20-2011 08:11 PM

Has anyone mentioned Zorn? I mean, I think he's explored every single compositional style known to man, and may be a bit too avant-garde, and hit and miss for some people's taste. But when it comes to eclecticism, he's very comparable to Zappa, and in his own way just as boundary pushing, if not more.

Danny88 11-13-2011 12:43 PM

Mozart, Bach, or Beethoven. Unless you mean the best instrumentalist ever.

NEWGUY562 05-04-2012 08:52 PM

I guess i'll have to go with prince since he can play 27 instruments.

RLLC 05-05-2012 12:24 AM

My choice is Willie Dixon; vocalist, songwriter, arranger and record producer; proficient on both the upright bass and the guitar. He was an important link between the blues and rock and roll and his songs were covered by some of the biggest artist of recent times.

Neapolitan 05-05-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RLLC (Post 1185958)
My choice is Willie Dixon; vocalist, songwriter, arranger and record producer; proficient on both the upright bass and the guitar. He was an important link between the blues and rock and roll and his songs were covered by some of the biggest artist of recent times.

He played bass on Chuck Berry's early hits - they both recorded for Chess Records. His songs were covered by Cream, Led Zeppelin, & the Rolling Stones.


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