Who Was The First Post-Punk Band?
 

I think it was throbbing gristle. they recorded the 1st annual report in '75 and pretty much created industrial. Television was also one of those proto-post-punk bands dating back to '73. I know there are some no wave bands that date back to '75 as well but they didnt put out anything until the no new york record.

so who do you think was the first post-punk sounding band?

Who was the first punk band?

Devo

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oh lawd

What does industrial have to do with post-punk again?

You can target a good start date for post-punk in 1976 or thereabouts. So whoever released a post-punk album in 1976 created it.

It was me. I created it.

Well it can`t be Devo, their first album came out in 1978.

1973 man, they released an album of demos, some of their best songs.

Wouldn't proto-post-punk be... punk?

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You mean the inacessible demos that Brian Eno refused to put on the debut album!!! Luckily, Brian Eno`s decision prevailed and we ended up with one of the great debut albums of the late 70`s.

That sounds too complicated for most on here;)

post-progressive dreamcore is superior to alternative hardcore funkpop.

is by FAR the most retarded statement i've ever read about musical genres anywhere, ever.

seriously proto-post punk? what's next? past future folk? if it was indicative of a style that would only gain enough clout to merit it's own sub-genre years later would it not just be 'avant garde'?

i don't mean this as a diss on you specifically - more your generation, i see it as reflective of a bigger issue i see within music (or at least within music listeners). there's too much emphasis and perceived importance on genre distinction and classification rather than whether or not it's cool or sucks.

Green Day

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Post punk was created by punk bands deciding they were bored of making 3 chord thrashes and wanting to make music more adventurous & diverse.

so how the hell you're finding post punk bands from 1973 or 1975 is beyond me.

And to answer your question, there isn't one.
The bands came first and all did their own thing. the name came later and lumped them all together.

When I think of post punk, I think of groups like Wire, PIL, Killing Joke and Joy Division etc (the labels came later to group them together) Basically I think of groups that embraced synthesizers into their sound and borrowed from the repetiveness of Krautrock. Most importantly though, these groups always seemed to have a very depressive bleak demeanour about them, especially those from up north (Northern yooooookay for non-Brits) Although, I do know of several post-punk bands (if that is the correct genre for them) that were more humorous and light hearted in their approach and didn`t have you feeling depressed after listening to them.

Devo were mentioned earlier, and the post-punk label often gets attached to them. I always think of them though, as just a crazy, gimmicky, nerdy and very unique boilersuit wearing new-wave band that emerged in the late 70`s and then put out 3 great fun albums, before they merged into a boring synth pop outfit throughout the 80`s.

You should definetly get your hands on the demos, shows how influential they were, crazy.

I`ve heard the demos several times, admittedly I haven`t listened to them in years. But their debut album is an all-time fav, so it gets regular listens............I just think of it as an Uncontollable Urge.

The first post-punk band was the band that the first music journalist labeled as such.

you really shouldn't call anything 'proto post punk', as mr dave said. it's absurd.

I dunno guiz, I always thought The Clash were the first post-punk group....

As absurd as it sounds, it is feasible. Think of it as a kind of before and after effect. A band that helped shape a new genre and then helped move it on in a different direction once it had been fully established!!! Avant-garde sounds better than proto-post whatever though.

I`m not sure I would apply post-punk to Television though, as they had different characteristics, such as two guitarists that were superior to your average punk band. The guitar work between Verlaine and Lloyd was pretty intricate and the use of keyboards in the group quite limited compared to what is known as post-punk. I see the first two albums as far more new-wave than punk anyway, and think of Televison far closer to new-wave bands like Talking Heads, Devo and Cars etc than to punk bands like the Sex Pistols, Clash (debatable) Dead Kennedys and Ramones etc.

I certainly think Television could be classed as proto punk for their influence on punk but if we`re talking about proto-punk I tend to think even earlier back to Iggy and the Stooges etc.

are you talking about Recombo DNA?

I'm talking about the Hardcore Devo 74-77 series.

...and so begins the retrospective re-writing of yet another music genre, according to MusicBanter. :mad:

A lot of post-punk bands were influenced by Can and Captain Beefheart, I don't see those artists being called proto-post-punk often. Nor should Television. Television didn't help shape what became known as post-punk any more than The Velvet Underground, Stooges, Can, or any of the first-wave punk bands did. They're a proto punk band, no need for any other silly additions.

I think there are two kinds of post-punk.
There's post-punk that's heavier, and that borrows more from traditional punk.
Then there's post-punk that's a bit lighter, and that borrows more from new wave.
I think post-punk is like the bridge over an ocean between two musical continents.

By the way, this absurd theory of mine is less absurd than calling someone proto-post-punk. The fu‎ck is that?

Punk, obviously.

Unless it's post proto post punk. Which would be?...

... the moment I quit this forum.

When I was a kid the bands that are now labled as Post-Punk were called new wave (Blondie,Talking Heads, Wire and the like), we even had a new wave of new wave in the nineties. Some clever clogs journalist will have re named it post punk to keep it fresh or something.

Blondie

As I remember, there was a difference between New Wave and Post Punk.
At least in my perceived imagination.
To my mind, New Wave was pop/punk, or rather pop with a bit of an attitude.

OTOH, Post Punk bands were a lot more adventurous and infinitely more original.

Coming from the musical backwater that is Newcastle even bands like wire and probably suicide were labled new wave but it was ages ago now and I was never music savvy then(or now for that matter) I'm pretty sure I never heard of post this and post that until I'd left the fog behind.

You're right.
New Wave (bands not considered "anarchic" enough...for want of a better word) were hot on the heels of Punk, if not side by side towards the end and onwards.

The title of Post Punk was reserved for this lot;

pre proto post hardcore proto post punk post post rock?

The differences between New Wave & Post Punk are pretty easy to define.

Post Punk - The natural progression from Punk

New Wave - The corporate progression from Punk

Who gives a toss really? As long as we can keep digging and finding unearthed bands that distort genres I'm happy.