It's been a very long since I've had that kind of conversation with anyone but I do remember one of my college roommates telling me once when I was listening to Mr. Bungle that "Ma Meeshka Mow Skowz" was just noise.

I've never understood people who say things like that. Whether you like that particular song or not it's pretty hard to deny that "Ma Meeshka Mow Skowz" has rhythm, melody and harmony, all of the requirements for even the strictest definition of music.

Well my parents think that anything described as metal is pagan. They think Hip-hop is for idiots. They absolutely detest punk and pretty much anything that isn't Classical or Sinatra sucks.

Granted, I love Sinatra. But I don't want to listen to that 24/7 like my dad does.

That's weird that they would associate a belief in many gods with a particular style of music.

My Dad: he is a fan of my classic rock taste, he's proud that to Creedence Clearwater Revival. However, whenever he hears me play death metal, he says "The other music you listen to is much better."

Mom: When I play metal, "that music is horrible."

Some of my cousins: they mimic death metal growls in attempt to make fun of the music.

Brother: Some of my music is apparently scary.

My brother enjoys the more accessible music that I listen to, but he doesn't have a very discerning taste, so it doesn't get any deeper than that.

Eh... I have a friend named Forrest who listens to AFI and System of the Down, but when I show him strange music like Throbbing Gristle or The United States of America, he ends up loving it. He especially loves "Black Angels Death Song" from V.U. debut. My little brother hates everything I listen to. He thinks it's either pretentious or just "noisy crap." Of course, he generalizes everything like movies or art. He only listens to mainstream rap, too (which probably explains it). When I showed him "Save Me Save Me" by Xiu Xiu, he just ended up saying the guy can't sing and that it's just a bunch of bleeps(?) and random guitar noises. When he heard a "Prelude to Meditation" by John Cage he just ended up saying it's not music. He especially hates V.U. and said it was all poorly recorded.

I've been meaning to get into Mr. Bungle. Which album would you suggest?

if you don't have a bad relationship with your brother you might rub off on him eventually. Even Jackhammer's son thought his music was crap until he was 15 :)

I played Muse for my stepdad because they used to be my favorite band and they're pretty much the only band I listened to I thought he might like (classic rock-head) and he ended up saying that their songs "are all in the same mode", meaning a musical mode. This made me pretty mad cause he listens to a bunch of grunge and classic rock bands that just rely on the pentatonic scale. I don't talk to him about music anymore.

EDIT: get California first, easiest to get into.

It depends what you're into, each one is very different but all three are good. Disco Volante, the one that song is from, is the most experimental (the song in that youtube video is actually one of the most normal songs on the album). The self-titled album has more of a heavy metal circus music angle. And California is kind of a skewed take on pop (sort of along the lines of Pet Sounds but much, much weirder).

Strict classic rock fans are the worst, you can't tell them anything.