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BastardofYoung 06-10-2011 06:37 PM

Yeah. It is. I like things that stand how they are flaws and all, as I think that is what makes the albums good in many cases.

The only times I have liked some remasters is when the volume is really low. Like I remember the original version of Gob's "Too Late... No Friends" you could turn the volume all the way up and it was still not loud... They eventually corrected that was the re-release, and it was good. That is when i think it is alright. Some of those old releases suffer from not being volume leveled very well, so I can see just improving that aspect of it.

Freebase Dali 06-10-2011 07:03 PM

Yea, making releases louder doesn't harm anything if the extent of it is bringing up the volume as a whole and maybe putting a brickwall limiter on the master channel with no actual compression so that any errant peaks don't surpass 0db. But that's literally like turning up the volume on your speakers but without the peak limiting.
In some cases, that isn't enough, and compression is actually needed to bring the lowest parts up without having the highest parts go over the 0db threshold... and that's when you're sacrificing dynamics for volume.

If the original mix had elements that were simply mixed far too low in context with the rest of the mix, the decision has to be made whether those elements are critical enough that the dynamics between them and the loudest parts can be lessened without any ill effects. It's really a matter of circumstance.
With that said, some songs could benefit from it, while others simply can't, without making that dynamics sacrifice. I think that's where some remasters go wrong, in that, in a lot of cases, loudness is put before dynamics simply because of the way a lot of music is mixed now days. Those are usually the cases where remasters of this nature go wrong.

Insane Guest 06-12-2011 11:31 AM

I've never bought a remastered album, and with the massive Floyd remasters set to come this year, I really have to make up my mind whether or not it is worth it.

Lord Dweedle 06-12-2011 01:22 PM

stick to mp3s, if u wanna listen to em on stereo then just burn em to disc..

otherwise go vinyl..

Zer0 06-12-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Dweedle (Post 1069144)
stick to mp3s, if u wanna listen to em on stereo then just burn em to disc..

otherwise go vinyl..

Do you even know what a remaster is?

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-12-2011 01:44 PM

THIS is what you call a remaster...

The Fall : The Wonderful And Frightening World Of The Fall: Omnibus Edition

Raust 06-12-2011 06:35 PM

Remixing in itself can be very benefitial. However, when dealing with the material off the album like some have already said they could mix it in a completley different way than expected. Turning up the volume louder and changing it to mono/stereo could have a lot of affect on the person listening to it. For the most part though remastering an album usually is a positive thing.

BastardofYoung 06-12-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Dweedle (Post 1069144)
stick to mp3s, if u wanna listen to em on stereo then just burn em to disc..

otherwise go vinyl..

As said, this has nothing to do with a remaster.

However, MP3 is just alright, FLAC is the better format if you have the space for it, ripping and burning FLAC is much better.

Lord Dweedle 06-12-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1069248)
As said, this has nothing to do with a remaster.

However, MP3 is just alright, FLAC is the better format if you have the space for it, ripping and burning FLAC is much better.

well when u remaster a film it increases the quality of the image.

Cant be any different on audio since wiki says its basicly same thing..

if you want remaster quality then you get a remaster, but why bother getting discs when theres sites where u can buy remaster'd MP3s for 9c to 15c each?

BastardofYoung 06-12-2011 11:54 PM

I am not one to correct you, as I do not know the techincal aspects of it... so I am not going to rant about something where I will likely end up talking out of my ass on this one... If anybody can explain it it in a techincal way I will allow a much more knowledged person on the subject do so. But I think there is more to it than just "increasing the quality of image" or in this case sound.


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