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Neapolitan 08-03-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1091875)
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Szechuan or Cantonese?

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Originally Posted by funddies (Post 1091149)
Having a disagreement with some friends and want to settle it with a few ppl in my corner. What is better: pop or alternative. And why?

Pop is anything on the pop charts and the artist could have any style it's doesn't have a strict sound and really isn't based on a genre - it's based on popularity and sales. Alternative used to mean something, but now it an umbrella term for all kind of things, I've seen music labeled as Adult Alternative or Classic Alternative (which could be anything from UK Punk to Seattle Grunge to Post Grunge) Not everything in Alternative is automatically good music because of the name.

It's easy to think Pop Vs Alt but their also can be a divide in opinions within Pop fans or Alt fans themselves. Some fans feel the best Alternative band imo is better than any pop star mentioned but among the Alt fans I doubt if they can agree which band is the best or even hate a band mentioned as the best - and same thing happens withing Pop.

Generally a Alternative Rock band plays all their instruments and write their own songs, while most Pop artists rely on others there are studio bands, back up singers, lyricists who write songs producers who control much of their music and when they tour whole entourage involved choreographers, dancer etc etc.

I like the DIY attitude of Alternative band who write their own music and play their own instruments. They seem down to Earth and what you see is what you get there is not all that flash as with Pop artist that has nothing to do with music. So in some cases Alt > Pop.

Howard the Duck 08-03-2011 12:25 AM

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Ben Butler 08-03-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1091562)
There's been plenty of variety in pop over the years if you also look at it. Artists approach it from all angles including rock, electro, r 'n' b, hip-hop, dance, soul, country and even world music. Its hard to determine whether alternative has more variety over pop.

I guess that pop is everything popular, that the mass consume really!

Sneer 08-03-2011 10:28 AM

Not necessarily. 'Pop' can be used to describe music that adheres to a specific musical formula, using key conventions such as hooks, sectional structure etc. There's a difference between pop music and popular music I'd say.

The New Pornographers write pop songs, but they're not hugely popular.

Thom Yorke 08-03-2011 11:48 AM

Final Tally:

Alternative - 1
Pop - 0
Alternative (kind of) - 2
Depends - 1
Neither - 1
Who cares? - 1

So the final and indisputable answer is that Alternative is better... kind of.

Ben Butler 08-04-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1092020)
Not necessarily. 'Pop' can be used to describe music that adheres to a specific musical formula, using key conventions such as hooks, sectional structure etc. There's a difference between pop music and popular music I'd say.

The New Pornographers write pop songs, but they're not hugely popular.

Yes, popular covers all different genres. Pop is pop.

HiFromOC 08-04-2011 02:28 PM

its all about pop, but they are both so different, weird to compare

The Monkey 08-04-2011 03:33 PM

The label "alternative" is now so broad that it has grown completely useless. It seems that every rock album of the past 15 years has been called alternative.


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