This pisses me off.
 

I know Led Zep were never all that original, but seriously, go and listen to this:




Now listen to this.




Ripped off to ****. And the Zeppelin version was released 3 years after the Floyd one, which is a shame, because it sounds like echoes would sound if pink floyd had given up writing it halfway through the first riff and just ****ed around for the rest. And produced it badly. And sucked.

Led Zeppelin has way too many songs in their catalogue that were ripped off from other artists, especially the old blues artists. Even parts of Stairway to Heaven were ripped off.

Led Zeppelin were shit.

Is Pink Floyd the Winner:confused:

I'm too tired to listen to how these match-up, but the least I can do is point out Andrew Lloyd Weber is probably much worse...



And, do I have to listen to 30 minutes of music to get the plagiarized part, or are there specific parts I can compare?

The whole damned song, dude.

Him too! Ugh. My school is putting on a production of Jesus Christ Superstar this year too…

Talent borrows, genius steals.

Led Zeppelin stole like Mexican drug cops, no doubt, but to be fair their often made their stolen material better than the originals.

I love how Jimmy Page honors one of his heroes, Bert Jansch, by plagiarizing his work.

Would you give me an example?

There's a whole Cracked article on artists that stole all their famous stuff. Zeppelin, Andrew Lloyd Webber (the man who gives musicals a bad name), Black Eyed Peas and Deep Purple were all in it for directly ripping people off. I think Deep Purple were the worst for ripping Smoke On The Water from The Stooges, who'd taken the original riff from a jazz piano line.

My completely irrelevent verdict: Led Zeppelin aren't very good anyway.

Dazed and Confused and Babe I'm Gonna Leave You comes to mind.

The problem I have with the "Led Zeppelin are thieves" crusade, is that it comes across like EVERY other artist in the history of music is original and Led Zeppelin are just thieving bastards. It was mentioned before, Deep Purple, Andrew Lloyd Weber, Black Eyed Peas, Vanilla Ice and many of those blues artists from the early days have ALL "stolen" music to make their own thing. I never hear the vitriol for them that LZ gets.

Also, that EVERY single song Led Zeppelin wrote was stolen in some way. Alright then, find me all the songs they stole to write Achilles Last Stand, Rock & Roll, Black Dog, Immigrant Song, Over the Hills and Far Away, Fool in the Rain, ect...

Also, I looked into the No Quarter/Echoes thing. The ONLY mention I could find about those songs being the same is that they're both played in C. And that's it. Considering the internet's love for proving LZ stole everything, I'll take a lack of evidence to call bull**** on THIS particular case.

Pretty much every blues musician ever has stolen huge amounts of other artists work. If you dont think so then you dont listen to very much blues. And to say that Zeppelin was unoriginal in its entirety? Well thats just an absurd claim that doesnt even dignify a response defending it.

probably because they never bought a jumbo jet based on theft

Just to clarify, I wasn't claiming they stole the music in terms of sheet music, of echoes to make no quarter.

I was saying the song was a total rip off. As in, stylistically.

to be fair, the chord structure and that bridging riff in Echoes is fairly common in all genres

I don't know. It used to bother me. But I almost fee this is the issue with viewing music in 'melodies'. It's pretty much common in traditional composition to piece together common pieces, and pieces from other songs to make new songs. Whenever something truly breaks into originality, it goes unknown because people don't know how to take it(ie. "that's just noise").

Led Zeppelin stole a ton of **** but 9 out of 10 times they outdid what they stole.

Again, I'm not fussed about the chords, I'm just saying, the wibbly guitars, the even wibblier keyboard patches with the bass going below them, the intro drenched in effects, robert plant singing pretty much like he wants to be roger waters...

Its all pretty similar.