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eraser.time206 10-30-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic (Post 1114925)
So, I say the importance of the British Invasion is that it kept rock and roll alive in the early 60's. And it helped spur the birth of Garage Rock and some early Psychedelic bands. Both of which are very crucial in the evolution of rock into the genre we know today.

All of that has to do with sound. Their lyrics were garbage. "we are the village green preservation society"....garbage...."There's nothing you can do that can't be done"..garbage. They brought a great sound but their lyrics were garbage. The British Invasion inspired sound + garbage lyrics.

Unknown Soldier 10-31-2011 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1114935)
Bob Dylan and Frank Zappa are known (not widely)

I agree, they were probably not very well known in Tibet.

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1114936)
All of that has to do with sound. Their lyrics were garbage. "we are the village green preservation society"....garbage...."There's nothing you can do that can't be done"..garbage. They brought a great sound but their lyrics were garbage. The British Invasion inspired sound + garbage lyrics.

That album is based around character sketches from traditional English village life. The lyrics are not meant to be relevant unless you know what you`re looking for and even then they`re open to debate. FTW I think the lyrics are good on that album.

Howard the Duck 10-31-2011 06:52 AM

i'm the only one who prefers the unsung heroes of the British Invasion - The Hollies, Herman's Hermits, The Searchers, The Tremeloes, Dave Clark 5

right-track 10-31-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1114936)
All of that has to do with sound. Their lyrics were garbage. "we are the village green preservation society"....garbage...."There's nothing you can do that can't be done"..garbage. They brought a great sound but their lyrics were garbage. The British Invasion inspired sound + garbage lyrics.

Lennon and McCartney and Ray Davies lyrics..."garbage".
You write off 3 songwriters with 2 examples and dismiss them as garbage.
And this after you complain about British Invasion bands ruining music and somehow negatively effecting American culture.
Perhaps you can tell me just exactly where British Invasion bands were influenced, before hitting the shores of the U.S.A. like a destructive musical and cultural tsunami?

Necromancer 10-31-2011 07:09 PM

As most everyone already knows, a lot of the British bands and artist were influenced by American Blues.

Artist like Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, etc.

I don't get the bad lyrics/"garbage" bit myself? :laughing:

Electrophonic Tonic 10-31-2011 07:13 PM

All that matters with lyrics, for me, is that they fit somehow with the music. I don't want to hear 'She Loves You' with Peter Sinfield lyrics on top of it.

The "garbage" claim is ridiculous. It's like the Good v Bad music thread... in the end it's all subjective.

eraser.time206 10-31-2011 07:24 PM

Influence and lyrics
 
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1115126)
Lennon and McCartney and Ray Davies lyrics..."garbage".
You write off 3 songwriters with 2 examples and dismiss them as garbage.
And this after you complain about British Invasion bands ruining music and somehow negatively effecting American culture.
Perhaps you can tell me just exactly where British Invasion bands were influenced, before hitting the shores of the U.S.A. like a destructive musical and cultural tsunami?

British bands were influenced by Blues musicians as already said. John Lennon is not a good writer and neither is Paul McCartney. They have written good songs but not on a consistent basis. I'm sure music as a whole would have been of a higher quality nowadays if the British Invasion never happened.

Necromancer 10-31-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic (Post 1115129)
All that matters with lyrics, for me, is that they fit somehow with the music. I don't want to hear 'She Loves You' with Peter Sinfield lyrics on top of it.

The "garbage" claim is ridiculous. It's like the Good v Bad music thread... in the end it's all subjective.

I don't really pay that much attention to the lyrics myself, especially music from the Hard Rock & Heavy Metal genres. Anything besides the occasional "Hook Line" anyway.

Look at Aerosmith for example, some of the hardest lyrics you can find to interpret, especially 70s material.

Who cares about the lyrics when its rock.

Electrophonic Tonic 10-31-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1115135)
I don't really pay that much attention to the lyrics myself, especially music from the Hard Rock & Heavy Metal genres. Anything besides the occasional "Hook Line" anyway.

Look at Aerosmith for example, some of the hardest lyrics you can find to interpret, especially 70s material.

Who cares about the lyrics when its rock.

It's a passing thing with lyrics for me. I only notice if it doesn't feel right. But yeah, it's all about the music still.

Jedey 10-31-2011 07:52 PM

To put some perspective on the British Invasion the last #1 song before The Beatles hit was Bobby Vinton's "There I've Said It Again". America was in the middle of the great Bobby Scare!









The Beatles sound was light years beyond what was charting in America.



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