Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1116745)

You want to talk about lyrics having a bad effect on culture? Let's talk about rap music. All of those corrupt, crime committing kids in Dallas are not listening to The Beatles, they are listening to rap music. If any music has had a bad effect on culture, it's rap music. I'd take The Beatles early teen love songs over the lyrics of rap anyday. Lyrics that mostly consist of drugs, sex, violence, and big 20 Inch rims. I'm not saying that ALL rap music is like that, it isn't, but a lot of it is. This is the music that is making culture worse. Yes, there were already gangsters and crimes before rap music, but I think it's gotten worse.

Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1116745)

Hey, I'm from Dallas too! And I know what you're talking about.

You want to talk about lyrics having a bad effect on culture? Let's talk about rap music. All of those corrupt, crime committing kids in Dallas are not listening to The Beatles, they are listening to rap music. If any music has had a bad effect on culture, it's rap music. I'd take The Beatles early teen love songs over the lyrics of rap anyday. Lyrics that mostly consist of drugs, sex, violence, and big 20 Inch rims. I'm not saying that ALL rap music is like that, it isn't, but a lot of it is. This is the music that is making culture worse. Yes, there were already gangsters and crimes before rap music, but I think it's gotten worse.

Compare the youth of today to the youth of the sixties. The sixties youth was influenced by music that was about peace and love. Look at Woodstock. There were no fights. Complete peace. Then look at Woodstock 99, it was remembered for violence, rapes and fires. I'm sure there hasn't been sucha large scale festival since the original Woodstock that was able to sustain peace. I go to Bonnaroo every year and there is always a violent outbreak somewhere.

I think if anything, the music of the sixties had a good impact on society and the music of today, mainly rap music, is having a bad impact.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1116762)

Then how do you explain the fact that the crimes rates in the US are currently the lowest they've been in the past four decades?

Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1116764)

I was going to point out various other eras compared in relation to the British Invasion and its affects on society earlier.

Rap, Hip Hop, or even the Grunge scene for that matter.

But I actually consider all this to be common knowledge to most music enthusiast already.

Why debate an argument that carries so little value?

Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1116766)

That's interesting. I guess the law is becoming more proficient.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1116771)

I think that would lead to more arrests, not necessarily a lower crime rate.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1116776)

i would stop harassing eraserhead if he actually thinks it through before posting

how would a nation tuned to Zappa help?

his lyrics aren't exactly "positive" or teaching people to be "good"

if you want a positive role model, try Stevie Wonder

Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1116778)

I agree. How were The Beatles not good role models? They had many songs about peace and love. Especially when George Harrison is holding concerts like The Concert for Bangladesh. That's a good role model in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1116780)

I agree. George Harrison has really redeemed himself. It's entirely different from Bono's self righteous condesending charity which really gets tiresome when he rubs your face in it all the time.:bonkhead: