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Salami 11-12-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1118707)
Yeah..sure...creepy....sure..:crazy:

Hey, I'm just saying I didn't like it. My brain just couldn't relate to it. I didn't find it "played from the heart". I thought it had neither structure nor meaning.

If you like it, I have no authority whatsoever to tell you that you are wrong. It really is a question of taste. Just don't expect too many people agreeing with you when you try and claim that Buckethead is better than Jimi Hendrix.

eraser.time206 11-12-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1118715)
Hey, I'm just saying I didn't like it. My brain just couldn't relate to it. I didn't find it "played from the heart". I thought it had neither structure nor meaning.

If you like it, I have no authority whatsoever to tell you that you are wrong. It really is a question of taste. Just don't expect too many people agreeing with you when you try and claim that Buckethead is better than Jimi Hendrix.

I think a lot of Hendrix is just the name. I know he was a great player for his time but if it was Hendrix playing those songs people would be falling over worshiping him. I've done blind tests with people and have found out this is true. You show someone a great song and before you show it to them you say "Hendrix, Clapton, Eddie Van made it" and they go all crazy. It's more of a psychological thing.

Salami 11-12-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1118717)
I think a lot of Hendrix is just the name.

I really have to disagree with that. The first time I heard this song, I'd no idea it was him:


Jimi Hendrix- Peace in Mississippi - YouTube

You can't deny the passion and the energy of the riffs, even if you don't like him.

eraser.time206 11-12-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1118719)
I really have to disagree with that. The first time I heard this song, I'd no idea it was him:


Jimi Hendrix- Peace in Mississippi - YouTube

You can't deny the passion and the energy of the riffs, even if you don't like him.

I'm not saying he didn't have passion. I'm just saying it's overblown. A lot of people equate passion and emotion with what they like to hear. Take someone like Yngwie Malmsteen. He's passionate as any guitarist can be but because the style he plays people say he's just fast. Artists can be very passionate with what they like and what they like might not be something you can channel.

Out of all the guitarists (countless) that have come since Jimi Hendrix and not one of them is better? That's wishful thinking.

Necromancer 11-12-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1118717)
I think a lot of Hendrix is just the name. I know he was a great player for his time but if it was Hendrix playing those songs people would be falling over worshiping him. I've done blind tests with people and have found out this is true. You show someone a great song and before you show it to them you say "Hendrix, Clapton, Eddie Van made it" and they go all crazy. It's more of a psychological thing.

For me, it was seeing with my own eyes, watching Jimi Hendrix manipulate the electric guitar on stage (live recordings). Its just sad to imagine, when you wounder what Hendrix would've accomplished if he'd lived. I guess some might assume, "that was never meant to happen".

Its in a certain sense, the same way with Clapton. I never respected Clapton as a great Blues Artist until I seen him perform covers by Robert Johnson on video.

When you can actually observe an artist performing, that adds almost as much to the ballgame as the music itself.

Salami 11-12-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1118721)
Out of all the guitarists (countless) that have come since Jimi Hendrix and not one of them is better? That's wishful thinking.

I never said that! I think Hendrix should be number 4 or 5. The top two are Duane Allman and Eric Clapton for me. This is all very subjective, so don't think I am trying to assert superiority or anything like that.

Let me put it this way: I would rather have Hendrix play at my birthday party than Buckethead. I hope that won't offend you.

eraser.time206 11-12-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1118732)
I never said that! I think Hendrix should be number 4 or 5. The top two are Duane Allman and Eric Clapton for me. This is all very subjective, so don't think I am trying to assert superiority or anything like that.

Let me put it this way: I would rather have Hendrix play at my birthday party than Buckethead. I hope that won't offend you.

I would rather have Buckethead play at my funeral than Jimi Hendrix.

blastingas10 11-12-2011 03:09 PM

Great thread. Two of my favorite guitarists ever. I just saw Buckethead live last month, one of the best concerts I've ever seen. He even played a little Hendrix. But I haven't seen Hendrix. I love The Buckethead.

Emotion: Hendirx
Sensuality: Hendrix
Creativity: Hendrix
Diversity: Buckethead
Influence: Jimi Hendrix
Technical Ability: Buckethead

If Hendrix was just getting started today, he wouldn't be that creative. But that's a pretty stupid hypothetical thing to say. Hendrix came from a different time, and he was more creative and innovative in his own time than Buckethead is today.

Hendrix recorded so much music that you have to do some digging to find. You can't just judge him based on his most popular stuff because he has better stuff that most people don't hear. Hendrix was a pretty good lyricist too, I think Hendrix was a overall better songwriter.

But what thing is for certain, nobody can cover Hendrix songs as well as Buckethead. He does a great job.

He doesn't start playing Hendrix till about 4 minutes in, but that's when it gets good.


Praxis - Guitar Solo/Machine Gun (Live) Vegoose - YouTube



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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1118732)
I never said that! I think Hendrix should be number 4 or 5. The top two are Duane Allman and Eric Clapton for me. This is all very subjective, so don't think I am trying to assert superiority or anything like that.

Let me put it this way: I would rather have Hendrix play at my birthday party than Buckethead. I hope that won't offend you.

I like your style man. I love Duane, The Allman Bros are one of my favorite bands. I love Clapton too, but I wouldn't put him above Hendrix. Clapton wouldn't put himself above Hendrix either, haha. I'd put Duane above Clapton, but I don't know if I could put him above Hendrix. Duane probably had a more technical approach to his playing than clapton and Hendrix.

Salami 11-12-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1118766)
I would rather have Buckethead play at my funeral than Jimi Hendrix.

Trust me, the way he's going, he'll be dead LONG before you are.

Mrd00d 11-12-2011 03:14 PM

Well this is a crazy thread, and I'm a huge Buckethead fan and grew up on Hendrix. I don't even know how to express my feelings here. I think erasertime is right to a point, but in general, it's not right to match the two against each other. It's hard for a lot of Buckethead fans to rank the Buck. My friends and I always want to say he's number 1, but that he's tied with the greats. It's just too hard to rank all the guitarists under the same headers.

and eraser.time, you should really check out some more of Buckethead's work. There are better examples than Colma, and Soothsayer. That's all anyone listens to, but Buckethead has tons of albums that best it. For starters, Population Override is probably the most emotional work he's done. Too Many Humans is one of the best tracks of all time in my book. If I were to use Too Many Humans as an example, I think we might start to develop an argument. Most people have no idea the depth of Buckethead's playing is. Even you might not eraser.time. I've heard just about every piece he has and I guess I would pick him over Jimi, but to declare a numbered definitive list is impossible.

I don't know if I'm making sense here, but Jimi is amazing. If Jimi hadn't died, perhaps he could have expanded more, but Buckethead does have the ability to do everything from bluegrass, to shred, to emotional blues, electronic, avantgarde.

Solo for solo Buckethead takes the cake (if you don't like shredding, he still has amazing non-shredding solos). As far as song-writing or composition, Jimi wins. Jimi has many more notable songs. But then again, Jimi's more of a household name and got plenty of airtime.

My review of his In Search of the... boxset has some of my favorite songs of his already posted in it. You may enjoy it here: http://www.musicbanter.com/members-j...ye-vision.html


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