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Thom Yorke 11-17-2011 02:33 AM

Hypothetical Situation
 
We live in a world where My Bloody Valentine never existed.

Bruno Mars has built up the reputation that he currently holds today. Now, he releases Loveless. What is the reaction of the mainstream listeners and Bruno Mars fans, and what is your reaction?

Change the examples around as you like. The idea is to have a current mainstream artist release something experimental. Maybe Justin Bieber just dropped Screamadelica.

s_k 11-17-2011 03:52 AM

I haven't got a clue what Bruno Mars or My Bloody Valentine sounds like and I have the feeling that's something to be proud of.

Howard the Duck 11-17-2011 05:47 AM

it would be interesting if Lady Gaga releases Reek of Putrefaction (Carcass)

that would sound like something she'd do

Goofle 11-17-2011 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1120788)
I haven't got a clue what Bruno Mars or My Bloody Valentine sounds like and I have the feeling that's something to be proud of.

er... no (to the latter)

I understand what the OP means. The problem is that Bruno Mars has already caked his soul in sin, so it's hard to truly gain the same respect for him as My Bloody Valentine has conjured.

It would still be a great album, but looking back it would be seen as a copy of what has gone before (considering we still have Jesus and Mary Chain and bands like that in our history).

Perhaps using a more dated artist, say Vanilla Ice, would have been more appropriate.

Paedantic Basterd 11-17-2011 09:28 AM

Would any label hypothetically allow a pop artist to release something so controversial? The nearest example I can think of is Radiohead putting out OK Computer, but in fairness, it wasn't the same leap in genre or dumping of audience.

duga 11-17-2011 09:45 AM

It would definitely limit the exposure to a potentially appreciating audience. Bruno Mars fans would revolt, and music fans like us would never care to listen to it because it's Bruno Mars.

All in all, it would flop.

Goofle 11-17-2011 09:53 AM

I would listen to it if I heard what it was all about.

The problem I have with the mainstream is that they really could make an effort to put some good music out there, and people would listen to it. If people listened to it, bought the CD and requested it on radio stations, then the record companies would give them license to do what they wanted, and you would have more good music in the mainstream.

I think it is an idealistic view that may never really work, because of the limited nature of the "mainstream" audience.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-17-2011 03:03 PM

See, and people **** on the Beatles so badly, when this hypothetical is EXACTLY what the Beatles did in the mid 60s.

I'd say, very few could get away with it. Katy Perry couldn't. Nobody would be paying attention if Bieber did, since his fans are more 14 year old girls who want to finger themselves to his posters.

Lady Gaga could potentially because to the uninformed mainstream audience she's 'weird'. Her imagery is very much in the same vain, but I think she's way too selfish to afford the effort. However, her 'monsters' would probably literally eat her **** on command, so possibly. Then again, she's clearly on the out.

Kanye definitely could get away with it, if he wanted to. I mean, he did release an extremely retarded song that was just Can's 'Sing Swan Song' with different lyrics. If anybody could get away with it unscathed.

Rihanna... Maybe. It's not impossible that she 'could' do it. Again, her fans are just creeps coming to get backstage passes to feel up her tits so... eh.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-17-2011 05:12 PM

The Rolling Stones should release an album like XTRMNTR just to fuck with Bobby Gillespie's head.

Janszoon 11-17-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1121004)
See, and people **** on the Beatles so badly, when this hypothetical is EXACTLY what the Beatles did in the mid 60s.

The Beatles released Loveless in the mid-60s? Wow, I'd love to hear that!

Stephen 04-01-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1120921)
Would any label hypothetically allow a pop artist to release something so controversial?

Just reading the Wiki about Loveless I'd say maybe if Bruno was pumping a lot of his own money into it.

Quote:

Loveless was recorded over a two-year period between 1989 and 1991 in nineteen recording studios... A large number of engineers were hired and fired during the process... The recording of Loveless is rumoured to have cost £250,000, a figure that came close to bankrupting the band's record label Creation Records.

My Bloody Valentine's relationship with Creation Records deteriorated during the album's recording, and the band was removed from the label after the record's release due to the difficulty and expense of working with Shields.
I know that's probably missing the point of the hypothetical? I guess we're supposed to assume the album made it through production and has been released to the waiting legion of fans. I'm thinking he would most likely lose a lot of his fans. I don't know much about Bruno Mars but listening to Doo-Wops it sounds mostly pretty disposable so I kind of doubt the cross over would go down too well.

Norg 04-02-2012 12:10 AM

Whaaaaaa ?????? :P

Franco Pepe Kalle 04-03-2012 04:44 PM

Here I would like to happen

Adele and Lady Gaga do a duet
Lady Gaga release a classic record like Bad Romance
50 Cent do a collaboration with Pitbull
Lionel Richie put Taylor Swift and Carrie Underwood into a song
J Cole and Kid Cudi team up and make some music
I would love to see Natasha Bedingfield, Leona Lewis, and Joss Stone all sing together. It would make a perfect night.

Howard the Duck 04-03-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1173336)
Here I would like to happen

Adele and Lady Gaga do a duet
Lady Gaga release a classic record like Bad Romance
50 Cent do a collaboration with Pitbull
Lionel Richie put Taylor Swift and Carrie Underwood into a song
J Cole and Kid Cudi team up and make some music
I would love to see Natasha Bedingfield, Leona Lewis, and Joss Stone all sing together. It would make a perfect night.

here's another one:-

FrancoPepeKalle makes a post that actually sounds like a contribution to the discussion

Key 04-04-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1173796)
here's another one:-

FrancoPepeKalle makes a post that actually sounds like a contribution to the discussion

0_______o'

Trollheart 05-16-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke (Post 1120777)
We live in a world where My Bloody Valentine never existed.

Bruno Mars has built up the reputation that he currently holds today. Now, he releases Loveless. What is the reaction of the mainstream listeners and Bruno Mars fans, and what is your reaction?

Change the examples around as you like. The idea is to have a current mainstream artist release something experimental. Maybe Justin Bieber just dropped Screamadelica.

Change the last word to dead and I'm in! :D

Stephen 05-16-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke (Post 1120777)
We live in a world where My Bloody Valentine never existed.

Bruno Mars has built up the reputation that he currently holds today. Now, he releases Loveless. What is the reaction of the mainstream listeners and Bruno Mars fans, and what is your reaction?

Change the examples around as you like. The idea is to have a current mainstream artist release something experimental. Maybe Justin Bieber just dropped acid.

Fixed it.


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