I was applying it to art in general.



That's not really what I said. I said nothing about being hip or boorish. I just said that some people don't have much imagination for that kind of thing. Think those kinds of people don't exist? They certainly do.

I'm guessing you're talking about that haino guy. Well I never denied that he was doing something that went beyond conventional music. I'm pretty sure my words were "I get that he's going beyond the conventions of music." I am open-minded enough to realize what he does, I just don't like him. Are their other avant garde guitarists that I like? Sure.


Sorry for getting off topic. Just had to clear this up.

And for the record Pablo Picasso isn't abstract art.

He was a pioneer of cubism. Although Cubism ultimately depends upon subject matter, it became, along with Fauvism, the art movement that directly opened the door to abstraction in the 20th century.

That may be true but it's doesn't make him an abstract artist.

You're right. I never said he was. But I think some of his work leaned more on the concrete side, like the picture you posted. And some of his work had a little more abstract qualities.

What qualifies something as abstract. I hear this word used all the time but I really don't have much of a clue as to what it means.

Obviously you have to master the technical ability because they're the basics, but to stand out from the crowd, you do indeed have to think outside the box as I like to put it.

I agree, as well Ben. Stage Presence is the key to success for any musician/artist.

Ive personally known a few guitarist that were just phenomenal, but on stage they seemed to resonate a boring personality.