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Scarlett O'Hara 01-05-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1140360)
As I said it was less segmented, more listened to the same music. That's the difference in the chart music.

How did you come up with that? And what is segmented when it's at home?

Were you around during the 50s and 60s?

starrynight 01-05-2012 09:39 PM

Well the sales would suggest that. Anyway, believe what you want. I'm leaving it at that.

Black Francis 01-06-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by boyobarker (Post 1140153)
If you look at any "what song are you listening to" thread or viral video - none of the songs mentioned are in the current charts? So... are the charts relevant anymore since they are based only on sales??

Were they ever relevant?

i liked what i liked if it was popular great, if it was un-popular even better.

i really don't care about the Charts "Top ten" or wthv.. >_>

starrynight 01-06-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1140390)
if it was un-popular even better.

I don't get that. I've never minded liking something if it was popular or not.

I do think there is probably more of a disconnect now between what the media hype is for something and what the general interest is. Lady Gaga for example is probably better known for her image than for her music.

Janszoon 01-06-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1140360)
As I said it was less segmented, more listened to the same music. That's the difference in the chart music.

I don't know that that's necessarily true. I'd be willing to bet that back in the 1950s and 1960s it was a much narrower age demographic purchasing music.

Ben Butler 01-06-2012 08:14 AM

I think they are a measure of sales, it doesn't demonstrate who the popular or talented artists is for me.

Goofle 01-06-2012 08:28 AM

I think it does measure popularity, but not talent, of course. As has always been the case.

And of course they are relevant, and have always been, but not to everyone.

starrynight 01-06-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1140426)
I don't know that that's necessarily true. I'd be willing to bet that back in the 1950s and 1960s it was a much narrower age demographic purchasing music.

It was probably less segmented even in the 50s, there were fewer genres. Disco in the 70s is probably a good example of a genre reaching across age groups, even some old 60s stars did disco songs for their fans. And in the 60s a group like The Beatles, while not liked by everyone, were covered by artists from various genres and age groups.

Janszoon 01-06-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1140476)
It was probably less segmented even in the 50s, there were fewer genres. Disco in the 70s is probably a good example of a genre reaching across age groups, even some old 60s stars did disco songs for their fans. And in the 60s a group like The Beatles, while not liked by everyone, were covered by artists from various genres and age groups.

I really doubt that many people born before, say, 1935 were fans of the Beatles.

Anyway, my point was simply this: People who were middle-aged and older during the 50s and 60s did not typically buy many records because, unlike their children, it's not something they grew up with. That's not to say those people didn't like music, it's just that they didn't consume it in the same way the younger generation of that time did. As a result of this, the music that made the charts during those decades tended to be skewed toward the listenening habits of the youth which, obviously, doesn't give you the whole picture.

starrynight 01-06-2012 11:07 AM

Even if in that earlier period of the 50s and 60s they didn't actually buy music maybe many of the middle-aged people at least heard the music on the radio or TV and had more awareness of chart music than most people probably do now. And my point about music of some periods being remade for other audiences wasn't made flippantly. See The Hollyridge Strings and the success they had.

The Hollyridge Strings | AllMusic


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