Trollheart's Room 101 (Music Version) is open for business!

Salami · 05-28-2012, 02:19 PM

I really do apologise for bringing up something that appears to have been put to bed a while ago, but....

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

QUEEN
A band that very much has an unmistakeable, distinctive sound and I hate absolutely everything about it. It makes me cringe just to think about it.

A band with flamboyance, charisma and a knack for producing catchy, infectious stadium rock anthems. Personally all I hear is music I cannot possibly take seriously as all I hear is novelty, comedy rock that draws absolutely zero emotion from me of any kind whatsoever. I find it impossible to connect with Queens music on any level at all and am baffled by anyone who can find anything in there to love so much - something that baffles me even more when you consider the massive amount of hardcore fans who will tell you that Queen are the absolutely epitome of rock music. The greatest band to ever live.

Overly dramatic, theatric nonsense with zero substance whatsoever.

Right, I personally love Queen, I think for me I do agree that their production is very dramatic and perhaps overdone, but I'd like to say why I think I Queen deserves my appreciation.

For a start, I really love the way that they could as a band act in a way so "outrageously" camp in a culture so oppressive to homosexuals, even if the culture found them merely interestingly different in the way they acted.

In short, Freddie Mercury was a bisexual Asian man in the 1970's - not the best idea for a rock star in what was comparatively an intolerant society.

Also, I think you've conveniently overlooked the musical artistry of their songs - "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" is a well deserved hit, which I think cannot be singled out as "irritating novelty" or "comedy rock" - it's got the foot-tapping rhythm, Brian May's characteristic noodling which is a legitimate style as much as any guitarist.

I'd also like to mention "'39", which I think made very good use of a 12 string in what was essentially a pop song, but one of the most original.

Of course if you don't like their voices, that's another thing, but I personally feel that there's not really enough of a reason to put them in "Room 101" here.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I think Queen is a great shout.

And there's also the one thing that Queen fans always like to sweep under the carpet when you mentioned it. For all their so-called greatness they never cracked the American market. Yeah they toured there, yeah they may have sold out a few gigs there but they never became big stars over there.

Let's face it, a movie with 4 guys headbanging in a car did more for Queen's popularity in the States than their whole discography & touring there ever did.

I'd like to second Queen going in.

Hmmm? With the greatest respect sir, I really haven't a clue as to what "cracking the American market" has to do with a band's legitimacy or indeed the quality of their music? For instance Rival Sons are in my opinion a better band than Queen are, and they haven't made any impact at all on the UK market. I'm sure they've tried too, albeit with less effort and money than Queen, but nonetheless all bands want to in some way sell abroad and many fail.

Trollheart · 05-28-2012, 02:35 PM

Appreciate your input, but I had already made it clear Queen were not going to be considered a candidate for Room 101. I like them too. Not a fan, per se, but I like a lot of their music, and I think the courageous way Freddie faced up to his illness and carried on without looking for pity or sympathy has to be applauded. A gentleman to the last, and a fine anthropomorphisation (?) of the phrase "The show must go on."

(And who says this topic is dead? More nominations, please...)

Salami · 05-28-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

(And who says this topic is dead? More nominations, please...)

Ah brilliant!

I'm not feeling particularly malicious, but I think the time has come for me to vent my pet peeve for OASIS -

A band from my very own city, very popular up my way and no doubt dear to the heats of many people, but sadly I cannot join in agreement. I've never heard a singer I enjoy the sound of less than Liam Gallagher, the nasal faux-American crooning is profoundly irritating without the repetitive dullness of most of their catalogue.

"Wonderwall" I think has to the defining feature for me - the song has about as much musical endeavour as a children's nursery rhyme, repetitive, garish and says incredibly little.

The attitude of Liam is also worthy of note, the time when he called George Harrison "a nipple" the most notorious.

Overall, a band I feel to have stolen everything from the Stone Roses except style and artistry.... so what do you think?

Paedantic Basterd · 05-28-2012, 02:53 PM

Noel Gallagher is hilarious. Let's meet halfway and you can put Liam in.

Salami · 05-28-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bam You Have AIDS

Noel Gallagher is hilarious. Let's meet halfway and you can put Liam in.

Funnily enough, I really like Noel Gallagher! "Hight Flying Birds" was a fantastic album and I think he deserves to be exempt from any association with Oasis in this thread.
And he's never failed to make me chuckle!

Screen13 · 05-28-2012, 04:05 PM

Then instead of Oasis (Who's debut album is still something I love as well as quite a few songs after that), just go for Beady Eye. The First Album fury died out pretty quick, didn't it?

Beady Eye - a few good songs, have to wait until the next for a full opinion, but the mixed opinions of the critics might equal those voting for the Room. What do you think?

Trollheart · 05-28-2012, 07:14 PM

Not familiar with Beady Eye. Good call on Oasis. Like most people I like a few of their tracks, but would never go so far as to buy --- or even download --- a full album. And yet they're seen as the Second Coming (or the First, if you dont believe .. but then, you wouldn't believe a First either ... oh, you know what I mean!) and are lauded as a band who totally changed the whole music genre.

How, I ask? It's like those people who swore the Police were going to be the new Beatles. Almost as bad as those idiots in the sixties who said the Beatles would be the new Beatles....

Oasis, definitely a suitable case for treatment (we can probably let Noel out now and then to perform and record, as long as he stays away from Oasis music, details to be worked out later).

Paedantic Basterd · 05-28-2012, 07:18 PM

To be fair, I think only Oasis see Oasis as the second coming, and even then I'm 75% sure it's all facetiousness.

Big Ears · 04-12-2013, 04:46 PM

Remember the trend for that unplugged stuff? The intentions were good as it was meant as a reaction against over-produced synthesizer music, but it wasn't unplugged. The bands used electric instruments, but downplayed the lead guitars and of course erred away from synths. The result was mostly crap and I cannot think of one good unplugged album.

Unknown Soldier · 04-12-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ears

Remember the trend for that unplugged stuff? The intentions were good as it was meant as a reaction against over-produced synthesizer music, but it wasn't unplugged. The bands used electric instruments, but downplayed the lead guitars and of course erred away from synths. The result was mostly crap and I cannot think of one good unplugged album.

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05-28-2012, 02:35 PM	#42 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Appreciate your input, but I had already made it clear Queen were not going to be considered a candidate for Room 101. I like them too. Not a fan, per se, but I like a lot of their music, and I think the courageous way Freddie faced up to his illness and carried on without looking for pity or sympathy has to be applauded. A gentleman to the last, and a fine anthropomorphisation (?) of the phrase "The show must go on." (And who says this topic is dead? More nominations, please...) __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-28-2012, 07:14 PM	#47 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Not familiar with Beady Eye. Good call on Oasis. Like most people I like a few of their tracks, but would never go so far as to buy --- or even download --- a full album. And yet they're seen as the Second Coming (or the First, if you dont believe .. but then, you wouldn't believe a First either ... oh, you know what I mean!) and are lauded as a band who totally changed the whole music genre. How, I ask? It's like those people who swore the Police were going to be the new Beatles. Almost as bad as those idiots in the sixties who said the Beatles would be the new Beatles.... Oasis, definitely a suitable case for treatment (we can probably let Noel out now and then to perform and record, as long as he stays away from Oasis music, details to be worked out later). __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

04-12-2013, 04:46 PM	#49 (permalink)
Big Ears Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 434	Remember the trend for that unplugged stuff? The intentions were good as it was meant as a reaction against over-produced synthesizer music, but it wasn't unplugged. The bands used electric instruments, but downplayed the lead guitars and of course erred away from synths. The result was mostly crap and I cannot think of one good unplugged album. __________________ My Journal: Rabbiting On

05-28-2012, 02:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Noel Gallagher is hilarious. Let's meet halfway and you can put Liam in.

05-28-2012, 04:05 PM	#46 (permalink)
Screen13 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,388	Then instead of Oasis (Who's debut album is still something I love as well as quite a few songs after that), just go for Beady Eye. The First Album fury died out pretty quick, didn't it? Beady Eye - a few good songs, have to wait until the next for a full opinion, but the mixed opinions of the critics might equal those voting for the Room. What do you think?

05-28-2012, 07:18 PM	#48 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	To be fair, I think only Oasis see Oasis as the second coming, and even then I'm 75% sure it's all facetiousness.