cats doing stuff will always win over south park :)....or kitlers....they never get old

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Cornell's writing may have improved but the later releases lacked the fire I feel when I hear Ultramega OK. Louder Than Love is great but where the bass leads are gone I wonder if it's because they were pressured into releasing something a little more straight forward, or because Yamamoto had already clocked out of the band. Like you mention, mood is a factor in the enjoyment of their later releases, but for me, I'm always in the mood for Ultramega OK.

I agree. You're the one that needs to grow up kid.

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The best album of their career, they never again came close to matching its raw, unfiltered emotion and passion.

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Godspeed! You Black Emperor are probably the only band who (in my opinion) made two perfect albums (the other being Lift Yr. Skinny Fists). This album has the most unmistakable and unmatched atmosphere of any I've ever heard. It's sad, bleak, pummeling, and strangely uplifting. In about an hour with no sung lyrics, Godspeed manage to conjure more emotion than most lyric-bands do in their entire career.

If I'm to leave out Bad English due to the members' years in the business prior to that, then:
Richard Marx - the self-titled debut album. Four classics off a debut - hard to top that.

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duh

Like this
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(I always knew cats had hidden talents...) :)

REM's Murmur of course!

Can't forget PJ's Ten either!

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Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

Well okay they shelved an album before they released this but I have never come across a band that sounds so mature and fully-formed on their debut album as Joy Division do here. It's an album that really helped change the course of music and still sounds fresh 33 years later.

Ramones and The Clash (UK)

two of the best releases in punk

You forgot this:
Damned, Damned, Damned ;)

^^^^^
Yes, Yes, Yes :)

i have that but haven't gotten around to hearing it

i love Machine Gun Etiquette, however

Gates - The sun will rise and lead you home!!

Iron Maiden's s/t is also very good

it was probably the first time punk and metal got together and had a son called NWOBHM

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Always been a fan of Interpol of course, so I may be a bit biased, but I still love this album. It's solid throughout, but looking back, the song order at the beginning of the album was somewhat awkward.

I have a few that are a little difficult to compare as they are somewhat different in style (see, I avoided saying 'genre' :rolleyes:). However, overall, I'd have to go for this:

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I'd say this album is on a par with Elephant, which seems to the album that gets all the recognition. I actually consider Elephant to be their third best behind this and White Blood Cells. There's a fantastic energy and a real raw quality to Jack's playing and vocals.

This album, White Blood Cells, and Elephant are all great. After Elephant, they sorta started going downhill in my opinon.

she rides jack's coattail and definitely is the most simple drummer (though it helps their songs) meg white is pathetic.

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Not too sure what that has to do with it being a good debut album but mkay...

Anyways, I've done some mulling around for some of my own. I came up with:

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Massive Attack - Blue Lines

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Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy

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The Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium

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Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

It's hard to pick which is my favorite...

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I really wish he'd carried on doing this type of stuff.

You need to get a clue, you admit her drumming fits the songs but then lament that she isn't playing them differently. Their entire sound is based on turning simple parts into something greater so just because she doesn't play 10000 notes a minute or take every chance to throw in fills doesn't make her a bad drummer. She plays to the song, and a more flashy style would ruin the vibe of their sound and make it pretty much something different entirely. Don't get me wrong she doesn't belong on any "Greatest Drummer" lists but she's nowhere near being "pathetic"

I don't think Meg White is a good drummer at all (although she may have improved since I checked them out), but they make it work. I think it's cool and a little daring and shows how a little drumming skills can go a long way.

^^her sloppiness fits Jack's songs perfectly

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Red House Painters - Down Colourful Hill.

This would easily make my top 10 debuts. One of my favourite 'slowcore' albums for sure; the music and lyrics both manage to grab you by the balls, no matter how many times you've listened to it before.

Jack is the genius behind the music she's just lucky to be a part of it all.
Any average drummer could've took her place...

one of the best debuts of all times, and one of my faves by him:-

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Jack said himself that Meg is the best drummer he could ever play with. Make what you want out of that but The White Stripes wouldn't have sounded like The White Stripes without her.

Not too irrelevant, actually. It's always important to know these things.

I hate her :/

oh come on - what would be the White Stripes be without her?

The Raconteurs?

:laughing: I guess you're right there is no White Stripes with out her.

No, Meg wasn't the best drummer, 'straight forward four on the floor' I think I remember it being described once. However, there was a chemistry, particular on stage that just worked. Not every track was down to Jack's incredible playing, Meg was just an important part of The White Stripes as Jack was. Strange that, in my opinion at least, Jack has come nowhere near the same levels with more accomplished musicians surrounding him.

Jack's good at what he does

i don't rate him on a "technical" basis

I couldn't comment on his playing from a technical point of view, as I don't have the knowledge or experience to do so, but I do think he's a very influential guitarist.

Both Jack and Meg take their somewhat limited skills and make something great out of them. In my opinion, I think that's far more impressive than an amazingly technical and speedy group of musicians playing scales.

On my favourite debut album(s), I'd have to say that it's a huge tie between these fellows.
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Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Safe As Milk

This is my favourite blues album, it captures Vliet and the other bandmates (with the inclusion of Ry Cooder) at a time before they went off of the cliff into avant-gardism, and it also serves as a good eye-opener to Beefheartedness when introducing people to his works. Not my favourite flavour of beef, but this album still gets a 10/10.

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Zu - Bromio

Dericulous album cover, brilliant album. This album is more brass heavy than their other works, but being the amazing band that they are, they make it work. I love everything that these guys have done, and this album is no exception.

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Mr. Bungle - Mr. Bungle

Hell, what hasn't been said about this album? Much more ska and metal oriented than their better works (Disco Volante) and it's another eye-opener to Pattonism like Milk is an eye-opener to Beefland.

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miRthkon - Vehicle

Jesus, this album is brilliant. It's miRthkon's only release, unfortunately, but it blows my socks off every time that I listen to it. This one goes up there with the greats of jazz/rock/avant-garde/(insert genre here)/fusion/brilliance.

Jandek's Ready for the House, the VU and Nico, and AMMMusic 1966 all get honorable mention as well.

pretty good intro to whatever brouhaha that followed:-

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better this than "For Sale", IMHO

All their early albums are a tossup for me. Maybe I just haven't given them all a good enough listen, but I'm one of those guys who puts a clear division between their early stuff and later stuff (or pre-LSD and post-LSD if you will).