i could not agree more....out of the early stuff when he was basically trying to be a Nurse With Wound clone but failing....i do enjoy from time to time Live From Bar Maldoror

on that i own in one way or another every album Nurse With Wound has released...but probably listen to three or four on a regular basis

and i can admit that Nurse With Wound is the king of artsy crap pretending to be music

That's actually not that bad, I'm surprised that he could catch a rhythm.

I don't want to get into the position of defending Dogs Blood or Nature Unveiled - you either like them or you don't - but just wanted to point out those records were made by David Tibet and Steve Stapleton, and Stapleton pretty much IS Nurse with Wound, so that's why you hear those similarities. Not a clone so much as an extension of musical ideas from the same guys.

BTW - for fellow fans of those records, the Andrew Liles remixes are Amazing also....

oh i know that steven was very much involved in those albums.....just as david was on many NWW albums.....and in all honesty i don't dislike any of the early stuff but i do enjoy the fact that david found his own with Imperium....and please give me Thunder Perfect Mind and All The Pretty Little Horses over the early albums

Sorry - I posted that msg and then I looked at your avatar and realized - hey if bob is a Coptic Cat, he probably already knows this....

I'm the exact opposite when it comes to C93 - love the early scary concrete stuff, but when David became the pagan crooner, I pretty much lost interest. I know I am in the minority though.

And I just love NWW to death, arty farty or no. I think the addition of Andrew Liles has given Stapleton a real creative boost. The last few albums (Rupture, Salt, etc.) have been absolutely amazing.

Are there a lot of C93 fans in Northern Nevada? I'm from Tahoe, where I think everyone is still listening to Journey and Styx...

Mine is Twin Infinitives by Royal Trux
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I was (and am still) a big fan of their '93 album, Cats and Dogs, so I bought the CD reissue of their self-titled album from '90. Here's what allmusic has to say about it..

My opinion is the bolded part. But I won't get rid of the CD because I feel like it's worth keeping for some dumb arty reason.

You have just brought back one memory I did not want to have. I agree with you on that. Thankfully, it was bought used for a few dollars shortly after the release, obviously brought in by one very dissatisfied customer. They got better, but damn, what a waste of vinyl.

Bringing things back a bit to C93...There was (was?) an era in my life where I got into the whole Late 80's C93 and friends thing, back around '91-2, but I think the only real buzzkill I got from that time was buying something called The Church of Raism. Consider the facts...


1) It was on Creation. COOL!
2) It was rare, and before the 1990-1 super Primal Scream/Teenage Fanclub/MBV onslaught that brought the label to serious attention. Released in 1989. OOOOOH, I'm digging this already!
3) Besides James Havoc, who later formed Creations Books, it had ROSE! Maybe this will at least something worthy of her voice.

Then I put the damn thing in the CD Player. Skip Button a Go Go!


One more: This was also the time I loved Coil - The Hellraiser stuff, Gold is the Metal, "Windowpane," and the all-time favorite downer that was Horse Rotovator. Then...How to Destroy Angels Remixed. Er, no.They did some pretty cool stuff after that, but that CD got me off the interest for a while. I returned a few years back, trying to gather up the sounds I missed, but still feeling the major disappointment of spending a New Import CD amount of money on that one disc which warned me that I would not bat 1000 on these things like I was. That and a couple of Acid House era PTV discs brought that score down a hell of a lot.

Yeah. I worked in an office for almost thirty years, and the photocopiers were ALWAYS getting jammed, stuck or being used by about ten people before me at the EXACT moment I HAD to have that important document for the driver! I don't think I'd be interested in hearing them humming to each other, or trying to separate the sound of a Xerox from a Bizquip, thanks...

As much as I like the early C93, today those works sound more of a very well-read artist, so I can understand your point. Still, they remain more interesting to me. A lot of the 80's stuff brings me back to a very interesting time in my life.

I never really viewed NWW as anything to do with music, but more with creating nightmares and dementia I love to hear from time to time at best. Still, I do have to admit that I'm not too much of a fan of the first two albums. Stapleton got very good by the time of Merzbild Schwet and Homotopy to Marie, which was a favorite night time car tape (fact!). Still, Chance Meeting... may have it's raves, but I'm still trying to hear what I'm missing.