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brlarini 10-01-2012 08:32 PM

Help identifying an instrument
 
Hello everyone!
I'd like to ask for help in discovering what wind instrument begins playing at 1:09 of the following music:



(Sorry I couldn't make it embedded or clickable... I needed 15 posts or more)

Is that a tin whistle, an ocarina or something else?
Thank you!

Janszoon 10-01-2012 09:09 PM

You can actually embed YouTube. I edited your post accordingly.

Anyway, to me the instrument sounds like a recorder of some kind, or a synthesizer version of one at least.

VEGANGELICA 10-01-2012 09:26 PM

I agree with Janszoon that the wind instrument sounds like a recorder. I started playing soprano and tenor recorder two months ago and so the sound is familiar. It's pretty, isn't it? :) The recorder doesn't get as much respect as it should.

I suspect your wind instrument in question, brlarini, is a soprano recorder. You can compare its sound to that of the soprano recorder played in this video...

Brian Bonsor - "Seranata" for Soprano Recorder and Piano
Jim Phypers -- Recorder player


JIM PHYPERS PLAYS "SERANATA" FOR SOPRANO RECORDER--SHARES HIS MUSIC BACKGROUND - YouTube

Burning Down 10-01-2012 09:34 PM

To me it sounds more like a fife than a recorder, but both are plausible options.

VEGANGELICA 10-01-2012 09:48 PM

A fife usually sounds breathier to me than the wind instrument in the song, so that I definitely would say the instrument used was a soprano recorder.

Here's what Wikipedia said about the music composed for the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronocles series:

"The soundtrack to Crystal Chronicles was primarily composed by Kumi Tanioka, while music programmer and arranger Hidenori Iwasaki provided one additional piece of music. Tanioka has described the musical style for the soundtrack as being based on 'ancient instruments'. The soundtrack makes extensive use of many medieval and Renaissance musical instruments such as the recorder, the crumhorn and the lute, creating a distinctively rustic feel." Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can compare the video I posted above with the following, which briefly shows someone playing a renaissance fife at the very end, demonstrating what I mean about the breathy sound of fifes:

Renaissance Fife - breathy!


Janszoon 10-01-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1236819)
A fife usually sounds breathier to me than the wind instrument in the song.

Here's what Wikipedia said about the music composed for the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronocles series:

"The soundtrack to Crystal Chronicles was primarily composed by Kumi Tanioka, while music programmer and arranger Hidenori Iwasaki provided one additional piece of music. Tanioka has described the musical style for the soundtrack as being based on 'ancient instruments'. The soundtrack makes extensive use of many medieval and Renaissance musical instruments such as the recorder, the crumhorn and the lute, creating a distinctively rustic feel."

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What do I win? :)

VEGANGELICA 10-01-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1236823)
What do I win? :)

You win...

Telemann's Fantasie Nr. 3 for recorder!!!!!! :)
played by the once famous Frans Brüggen


brlarini 10-02-2012 11:02 AM

Wow, thank you guys, I wasn't expecting such detailed answers.
Anyway, I've been intrested in learning to play some wind instrument due to ease of learning (or so they say...), and that instrument sounded really nice to me.
The Crystal Chronicles series have a really nice set of music which make use of wind instruments (even though they may be synthesized). :)





So, thank you again for your help, I'll take some time to try the recorder.

VEGANGELICA 10-02-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brlarini (Post 1236945)
Wow, thank you guys, I wasn't expecting such detailed answers.
Anyway, I've been intrested in learning to play some wind instrument due to ease of learning (or so they say...), and that instrument sounded really nice to me.
The Crystal Chronicles series have a really nice set of music which make use of wind instruments (even though they may be synthesized). :)

[...]

So, thank you again for your help, I'll take some time to try the recorder.

I'm glad the answers in this thread were helpful to you, brlarini. (I don't think the recorder in Crystal Chronicles is synthesized. It sounds exactly like a real recorder sounds. And with enough practice, you should sound just like that!)

Yes, a recorder is easy to learn, because it is basically a glorified whistle.

But one important thing I want to tell you is that when you get a recorder, make sure to get one that has three pieces (so that you can tune it, if necessary, by separating the joints slightly to achieve a lower pitch)...and I recommend Baroque fingering.

Secondly, when you see a recorder fingering chart and you see that the thumb hole appears to be half covered, actually you will need to have the thumb hole covered almost 9/10th of the way (with the open crescent nearest your mouth) to cause the recorder to leap up an octave.

Here's an example of an inexpensive but decent plastic soprano recorder:

Yamaha YRS-302B Soprano Recorder - 3 pieces, $15.27 (US Dollars)
4 1/2 stars (28 reviews)

Amazon.com: Yamaha YRS-302B Soprano Recorder - Baroque 3 Pc.: Musical Instruments

For comparison, a high-end recorder would be a 3-piece wooden Moeck. I have and use a 2-piece wooden Moeck, a "school" type that my parents gave to me when I was five! So, it is probably worth...$1. But it still plays nicely. :)

More about Moeck recorders:

Moeck Recorders - Courtly Music Unlimited

If you want to buy a very nice recorder, I would recommend the following:

Moeck 4200 Rottenburgh soprano recorder, Baroque fingering, 3-piece, natural maple. ~ $235

http://static.musicroom.com/img/c/f/MOE4200.jpg

^ If you have money to spare, I'd get this one! :) But the plastic Yamaha 3-piece recorder would probably sound almost as nice. I have a plastic Yamaha tenor recorder and like its tone very much.

brlarini 10-03-2012 09:20 AM

Glad I came here just before getting another model (from Yamaha though, Yrs24). I found a shop in my country selling the YRS-302B at a reasonable price for our standards (R$67,80 :( ). and I think I'll stick with that one, as I am new to this.
Thank you for your tips VEGANGELICA, since I'll try to learn by myself they may come in handy. Thanks to internet to for the large amount of material about it :) .

VEGANGELICA 10-03-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brlarini (Post 1237244)
Glad I came here just before getting another model (from Yamaha though, Yrs24). I found a shop in my country selling the YRS-302B at a reasonable price for our standards (R$67,80 :( ). and I think I'll stick with that one, as I am new to this.
Thank you for your tips VEGANGELICA, since I'll try to learn by myself they may come in handy. Thanks to internet to for the large amount of material about it :) .

You're very welcome for the tips. I learned mostly by myself, too, so I want to pass on what I learned!

I checked to see the difference between the less expensive Yamaha YRS-24B Soprano Recorder (3-piece plastic construction, Baroque fingering) and the more expensive YRS-302B (which costs 4 times as much), and I see that the YRS-302B...

* Has an arched windway designed for ease of reaching upper register.
* Is considered fully compatible with wooden recorders.
* Is made of ABS resin for strength and durability.

The cheaper Yamaha YRS-24B Soprano Recorder got good reviews on Amazon, however...

Amazon.com: Yamaha YRS24B Soprano Recorder: Musical Instruments

... so perhaps the difference between the two models isn't worth the extra money for the YRS-302B. Since I haven't tried the YRS-24B series of recorders, I don't know, though.

The Yamaha YRS-302B Soprano recorder should come with a fingering chart, grease to put on the joints to help the three pieces slide together better, and a rod to which you can attach a small piece of cloth to swab out the instrument when you are done playing. So, you should have every physical thing you need to learn to play it (other than the cloth).

One tip is that when you play a recorder, due to breath moisture you can get condensation in the instrument that interferes with producing clear notes, and the best way to get rid of it (while playing) is to suck upward (don't try to blow it out). If moisture builds up even more such that sucking doen't "vacuum" it out, then you can stop playing and swab out the recorder.

Another tip: to get the sound you are after (to match the videos), you will want to produce vibrato, which you can do by rhythmic blowing into the recorder. You'll be able to play with the sound to see what works best for you.

I hope you'll have fun, whichever recorder you get (in South Africa, I'm thinking, based on the R of your currency)! I checked and see there are YouTube videos that can serve as teacher instruction:


How to Play the Recorder : How to Play the Recorder - YouTube

Music Lover 2010 10-16-2012 10:28 AM

I have a recorder n that's not a recorder. It's maybe a piccollo.

Burning Down 10-17-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Music Lover 2010 (Post 1240927)
I have a recorder n that's not a recorder. It's maybe a piccollo.

Definitely not a piccolo.


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