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Necromancer 04-02-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1303230)
The country forum got so little traffic it was merged with the folk forum.

Maybe that is because most people that listen to country music are white supremacist and members of the ku klux klan?

:tramp:

dust1n 04-02-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1303188)
I just think this site thinks his overrated because he is African American. He is not overrated and is the greatest guitar player of all time.

Hmm? I love Cab Calloway, and John Coltrane, and Gil Scott-Heron, and Barry White. I just don't like Hendrix. To be fair, I'm not really a fan of much rock from the 60's. I did say he was better than the Beatles.

The Batlord 04-03-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1303239)
Maybe that is because most people that listen to country music are white supremacist and members of the ku klux klan?

:tramp:

Hey now. I like me some country and I'm only slightly racist.

Unknown Soldier 04-03-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1303429)
Hey now. I like me some country and I'm only slightly racist.

I know you country boys like your guns as well.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...neckMedium.jpg

The Batlord 04-03-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303435)
I know you country boys like your guns as well.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...neckMedium.jpg

Why should I have to be country to think that gun kicks ass?

Unknown Soldier 04-03-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1303438)
Why should I have to be country to think that gun kicks ass?

Just call it intuition and I knew you'd take the bait.

neardeathexperience 04-03-2013 10:40 AM

Good bad or indifferent he will remain one of the cultural icons of rock for the rest of time. Having said that Jim brought a unique style to rock at that time and although just like any other artist I don't like all of his songs there are enough quality ones to drown out the bad ones in my opinion.

Neapolitan 04-03-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302749)
A further 3 reasons -

1. His rendition of The Star Spangled Banner is, in all fairness, a mess. It truly is. Now, if you or I made that then people would laugh at you and call you a bit funny, but because it's Hendrix then automatically people assume that it's brilliant.
It's like Smoke on The Water. Okay, so forget that fact that it's the first thing you can play on the guitar and it's by Deep Purple and mentions Frank Zappa, and listen to it again. It's a terrible song.

I think that one messy part was suppose to sound like a mess, Jimi was imitating bombs soaring through the air and blowing up on his guitar.

Necromancer 04-03-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303435)
I know you country boys like your guns as well.

NO! .. "We don't need no stinking guns". As one of my fine Mexican Friends once said to me.

To bettter answer your question Soldier. Country Music fans are nothing more than ..http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5240/66888565.jpg .. Rebels without a Cause. You know, people like Batlord. :laughing:


Unknown Soldier 04-03-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1303601)
NO! .. "We don't need no stinking guns". As one of my fine Mexican Friends once said to me.

To bettter answer your question Soldier. Country Music fans are nothing more than ..http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5240/66888565.jpg .. Rebels without a Cause. You know, people like Batlord. :laughing:

........ and they don't need no stinking badges either!



It seems like we need another Lincoln to thrash these rebs.

bettybong79 04-04-2013 05:59 AM

Justin Beiber, Nicki Minaj, One Direction and even Justin Timberlake are overrated.
HENDRIX IS A ****ING LEGEND!!! I have to disagree.

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bettybong79 (Post 1303767)
Justin Beiber, Nicki Minaj, One Direction and even Justin Timberlake are overrated.
HENDRIX IS A ****ING LEGEND!!! I have to disagree.

Explain why he is a legend.

Nurse Duckett 04-04-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303785)
Explain why he is a legend.


Forgive me for butting in like this Mr Stardust.

I think it would be far more interesting to read your thoughts on why Hendrix isn't a legend.



Urban Hat€monger ? 04-04-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse Duckett (Post 1303790)

I think it would be far more interesting to read your thoughts on why Hendrix isn't a legend.

To save you going through the thread I'll summarize Mr Stardust's opinion.

Apparently Jimmy Page is the better guitarist and to demonstrate this 'fact' he's taken a 'live' recording of Stairway to Heaven that was recorded over 3 nights AND overdubbed in the studio and compared it to Hendrix playing a one off festival with a band he'd never played live with and had no rehearsal time with.
So naturally Page is better.

Glad I could help.

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1303817)
To save you going through the thread I'll summarize Mr Stardust's opinion.

Apparently Jimmy Page is the better guitarist and to demonstrate this 'fact' he's taken a 'live' recording of Stairway to Heaven that was recorded over 3 nights AND overdubbed in the studio and compared it to Hendrix playing a one off festival with a band he'd never played live with and had no rehearsal time with.
So naturally Page is better.

Glad I could help.

Apparently Mr Urban believes that making up statements is a viable explanation.
Please, I hope surgery to get your head removed form your ass goes well.

If you want to call Hendrix a legend, then call Elvis one as well. Without Elvis Jimi wouldn't exist as a musician as it was Elvis who bridged the gap between whites and black.

Janszoon 04-04-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303822)
Apparently Mr Urban believes that making up statements is a viable explanation.
Please, I hope surgery to get your head removed form your ass goes well.

If you want to call Hendrix a legend, then call Elvis one as well. Without Elvis Jimi wouldn't exist as a musician as it was Elvis who bridged the gap between whites and black.

How does Elvis bridging the gap between "whites and black" have anything to do with whether or not Jimi would have existed as a musician?

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1303824)
How does Elvis bridging the gap between "whites and black" have anything to do with whether or not Jimi would have existed as a musician?

I meant as a successful musician. Before Elvis Blacks had some success but not near enough to catapult them into fame.

The Batlord 04-04-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303822)
If you want to call Hendrix a legend, then call Elvis one as well.

Apparently Elvis isn't considered a legend.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-04-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302523)
watch a video of his performance of Hey Joe at Woodstock and compare it to his studio version. In my opinion I think he absolutely destroys the whammy bar in the song in a bad way. Nearly every lick starts and finishes with it, and because of the amount of distortion it sounds like he knows that he will make a mistake so he uses the whammy bar and distortion to hide it.
Also, his playing is incredibly sloppy. I know, things will sound different live, but Jesus does that guitar sound bad.

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302749)

1. His rendition of The Star Spangled Banner is, in all fairness, a mess. It truly is. Now, if you or I made that then people would laugh at you and call you a bit funny, but because it's Hendrix then automatically people assume that it's brilliant.
It's like Smoke on The Water. Okay, so forget that fact that it's the first thing you can play on the guitar and it's by Deep Purple and mentions Frank Zappa, and listen to it again. It's a terrible song.

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303042)
His version of Star Spangled Banner lost the melody completely - there's no point doing a song if you can't actually hear the melody that's being played. The bombs and machine guns sound like machine guns, I'll give you that, but if he wanted to play a protest song he didn't need to add it into the country's anthem.
Normally he uses feedback in a good way, but in this case it just sounds messy and out of place. The buzz coats all the notes so half of them just sound like buzzes.

And as for the greatest guitarist? Jimmy Page. Just listen to his ''Stairway To Heaven'' performance from 1973's The Song Remains The Same concert film.

Nothing I said wasn't true.
Maybe you should pull your head out of yours.

Paul Smeenus 04-04-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303825)
I meant as a successful musician. Before Elvis Blacks had some success but not near enough to catapult them into fame.



So Elvis Presley > Martin Luther King. Gotcha.


Please, keep explaining the world to us. We can always use a laugh.

Janszoon 04-04-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303825)
I meant as a successful musician. Before Elvis Blacks had some success but not near enough to catapult them into fame.

Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington would beg to differ.

Unknown Soldier 04-04-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303822)
Apparently Mr Urban believes that making up statements is a viable explanation.
Please, I hope surgery to get your head removed form your ass goes well.

If you want to call Hendrix a legend, then call Elvis one as well. Without Elvis Jimi wouldn't exist as a musician as it was Elvis who bridged the gap between whites and black.

So who would you say was the most influential guitarist on other guitarists since the 1960s?

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303870)
So who would you say was the most influential guitarist on other guitarists since the 1960s?

BB King.

Nigh on every rock song you've ever listened to has been indirectly inspired by this man.

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1303874)
This guy really is from Mars.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4f988ada.png

Janszoon 04-04-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303875)

Yes, that was the reference he was making.

Forward To Death 04-04-2013 10:27 AM

Can't tell if you're trolling or seriously trying to make the case that Hendrix is an overrated guitarist, but I'm leaning towards the former considering that you seem to be making the case more along the lines of that you think he sucks.

Either way though, bad argument or bad trolling, your username sucks.

Necromancer 04-04-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1303234)
I feel like I've read these same arguments over and over. He was a talented guy. End of. It's overrated how much he is debated about.

I So Agree ..

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303873)
BB King.

Well BB King is defanitily one of the best and a good choice Ziggy. But there are just so many other guitarist that qualify also. On ongoing debate that seems endless without any viable result in the end as to who is the best of the best.:o:

Personally .. I would prefer a thread dedicated to Randy Rhoads. :D

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 10:51 AM

It's a case of you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't....

Necromancer 04-04-2013 10:57 AM

You totally lost me there .. sorry.

Slow the fuck down just a bit, people will take you more serious.

Unknown Soldier 04-04-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303873)
BB King.

Nigh on every rock song you've ever listened to has been indirectly inspired by this man.

Ok, if we narrow the parameters down to just the heavy rock and metal genres who would you say was the most influential on other guitarists?

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303899)
Ok, if we narrow the parameters down to just the heavy rock and metal genres who would you say was the most influential on other guitarists?

Heavy rock and metal......Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath. They practically invented heavy metal.

Unknown Soldier 04-04-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303903)
Heavy rock and metal......Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath. They practically invented heavy metal.

But Tony Iommi hit the scene in 1970. The true roots of metal had already been sown quite a few years earlier from around the 1967 period. Black Sabbath just pulled all these aspects together (especially Tony Iommi) but I'm specifically asking for a heavy rock guitarist from the 1960s and not 1970s.

ZiggyStardust 04-04-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303906)
But Tony Iommi hit the scene in 1970. The true roots of metal had already been sown quite a few years earlier from around the 1967 period. Black Sabbath just pulled all these aspects together (especially Tony Iommi) but I'm specifically asking for a heavy rock guitarist from the 1960s and not 1970s.

If you insist....

Threeway between Steppenwolf (forgot the guitarist), Jimmy Page and Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore.

Janszoon 04-04-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303908)
If you insist....

Threeway between Steppenwolf (forgot the guitarist), Jimmy Page and Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore.

Ah yes, old whatshisname from Steppenwolf, so influential you can't even remember his name. :laughing:

PoorOldPo 04-04-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1303435)
I know you country boys like your guns as well.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...neckMedium.jpg

Something inside me tells me there is something seriously wrong with this image.

Paul Smeenus 04-04-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303908)
Steppenwolf (forgot the guitarist)



Oh, you mean this guy...

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-04-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1303917)
Ah yes, old whatshisname from Steppenwolf, so influential you can't even remember his name. :laughing:

Which is hardly surprising as they had 4 different lead guitarists between 1967 & 1975.

Necromancer 04-04-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1303919)
Something inside me tells me there is something seriously wrong with this image.

Yeah :laughing: I dont think thats an actual "real" gun. They were used in the military as learning devices for training. That particular big gun in the picture could be from the 40s? I think the military had most of them destroyed years ago. Some were given out during that time. There is still a few of them around here and there.

Janszoon 04-04-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1303931)
Yeah :laughing: I dont think thats an actual "real" gun. They were used in the military as learning devices for training. That particular big gun in the picture could be from the 40s? I think the military had most of them destroyed years ago. Some were given out during that time. There is still a few of them around here and there.

I assumed Po was talking about the guy's obviously superimposed head.

Unknown Soldier 04-04-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303908)
If you insist....

Threeway between Steppenwolf (forgot the guitarist), Jimmy Page and Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore.

:D He must have been so impressive if you can't think of his name. I'm guessing you might be referring to John Kay the frontman or Michael Monarch here. As for Steppenwolf in general, I don't think they were that good a band at all.

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1303919)
Something inside me tells me there is something seriously wrong with this image.

A man with an oversized gun stateside, nothing wrong with that!

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1303931)
I think the military had most of them destroyed years ago. Some were given out during that time. There is still a few of them around here and there.

You normally keep this type of stuff lying around in your garden shed then?


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