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When I say pussified, I'm not talking about music becoming too feminine/less masculine, but rather how modern day music has become too soft with no daring messages.

Most of us know about the controversial artists throughout music history. Not only was their music engaging, but their ideas were as well and they had something to say. Regardless of their politics, they all made an effort to challenge different social norms of their time.

Elvis simply challenged social norms just by performing in unconventional ways, John Lennon was a peace activist, David Bowie challenged norms surrounding gender and sexuality, Marilyn Manson actively challenged religion, etc. There are too many to be mentioned, but all of these artists seemed to stand for something and meant what they said.

Sadly, I can't say the same about mainstream stars today. If you really take a look at the musical landscape, the most offensive or "out there" artist is Lady Gaga, and that's sad. I love Gaga, but she doesn't really push any boundaries and is mostly a safe artist who just dresses differently.

I don't want this to come off as a "back in my day" type of thread, but modern music to me has no message or meaning. There's no rebellious spirit or groundbreaking artists in the mainstream, whereas in the past there was at least two or three significant artists per decade that made a difference musically and culturally. I just don't see that with today's artists.

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Paul Smeenus

My only thought is how much a detest the term "pussified"

Oh, I guess I have two thoughts. There is vastly more music out there than any one person can hear.

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Dr_Rez

What is wrong with the term? you wouldn;t call our culture as a whole especially how we handle children pussified?

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Paul Smeenus

Would you call it vaginafied?

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yes

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clitified

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Here's a song from today with a daring message: Same Love by Macklemore.




I don't think you would have seen this 20 years ago...

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Black Francis

Even rebellion eventually becomes part of the system.

Idk, i don't really care if music has a topical message, First and foremost i have to like song and if the song has a deep message that makes me think, GOOD, if not, i don't care what they are talking about as long as i like it.

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Wpnfire

This. Well said.

I use the same logic with the construction of good, solid video games: Gameplay comes first followed closely by controls, then plot, and then all the rest of the gameplay elements should be designed.

People take offense to the message Slayer seems to portray in their music for instance, but that's all just an act. They're not really satan worshipers (well, I know Araya said he is catholic...)

They just use that **** as part of their act to sell music, and people know that.

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What more can someone do to really shake things up at this point? Im fine with where music is at. There are more good and interesting albums released in any given year than I can possibly find the time to hear.