Yeah, some people can pull off that falsetto but when it's done badly it's awful.

On a different note, I cringe watching Foo fighters these days as Dave Grohl seems to have to yell "C'mon" " or "Lets go mother****ers" prior to every big chorus.

Lyrics are as important to me as the sound.

So good music but bad lyrics.

Or great lyrics but terrible music.

The Who had a wonderful song and wrote songs like, "Love Reign Over Me." It's sometimes hard to find good music and lyrics. The music is great but the lyrics are cheesy. Or the music is average but the lyrics are above-average,

Well, as a counterexample of my own case, I know almost to a certainty that my brain can ignore lyrics as easily as a rat can humans when munching on their vegetables. This is partly due to some early prejudice of my own making which felt that musicians often don't know what they're talking about. Of course, there are others - Bob Dylan and Phil Ochs, when stripped of their instrumentation, somehow stand on their own very well. I guess in the end, it's a product of discriminating too often.

Right, but Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, The Flaming Lips, The Church, Aztec Camera all write great lyrics. They span from all decades and their music is great, in my opinion. But some indie outfit comes out with a groove (I am sucker for indie rock too much) but has either encryptc lyrics or cheesy or cliche lyrics. What a shame. But I know what you mean, sometimes it's hard to find. You have to assume not to find it. But I still have hope for it.

When I say something about a song, and they ask ''What's the name of that song?, I might know it'' and i'm just like ''No, you really won't know it'', then they insist I should tell, and then when I tell, I get a weird face that says ''Oh, no I don't know it..''.
What the hell are you looking weirdly at me for? I knew you wouldn't know it!

Ofcourse you're not going to know a song by a pretty unknown band (in the grand scheme of things, unless you're a fan of that specific genre, which these people usually aren't) that's also not one of their popular songs. There's ****loads of artists out there, and even more albums, let alone songs.

so you talk about a song.. and then get mad at people for inquiring about it. these are strange times we live in indeed

For me, it is hard to dislike anything about Dave Grohl, or Foo Fighters. It's great Rock N Roll, better than a huge chunk of other mainstream Rock groups. I will be seeing them in Portland, OR this October I believe, and if he yells c'mon or lets go motherf*ckers before every big chorus, pretty sure it'll amp me up and I'll be rocking out like nobodies business. I guess I should name a pet peeve of mine...

When I talk about a band I like, and the other person goes off on how much they suck, but then tell me they've yet to listen to a single song by them. It really makes me want to take a cinder block to their skull.

No, but it's in conversations where specifically which song it is just isn't of importance.
What I get mad about is that I know they won't know it (which isn't their fault, way too many songs exist), and then they act really surprised when I tell them and they don't know it.

...You'd hate my music then... Um, not to be a pedant though, but do you mean when an LFO rapidly pans a synth leftrightleftrightleft and gives you vertigo? Because otherwise, any music not recorded in mono is panned.

If you took nearly any modern recording and removed the panning, it would sound all muddled and dense and hard to hear. Our brains like panning, because the real world has incredibly wide-spread panning of every single soundscape you encounter.

I love panning.

Oh God yeah.

"I love YOU,
Yes it's TRUE,
And I'm BLUE,
Without YOU,
Ooh ooh OOH,
Scooby-DOO"

Unless it's really creative. Some rappers can rhyme the same syllable or syllable set for thirty seconds and keep it interesting. Then again, those usually aren't end-rhymes, but cleverly syncopated internal slant-rhymes...

Can't agree enough. Although, I hate fade out in almost any track. It may have been a clever way to cut song length well over half a century ago, but now it screams, "couldn't write a decent ending to the song."

The exception, for me, is music where the musicians actually repeat and fade, playing more and more softly and eventually dropping out. That, sounds like professional musicianship, pulling of a cool sonic stunt.

When the band obviously just jammed out half heartedly for three minutes which has then edited down to 45 seconds with a fade-out? Blegh. No thank you.

So weird, especially when the native accent comes through. Not as wierd as K-pop with "American" accents, or really any sort of non-American pop with "American" accents.

The weirdest though, is that even Americans do fake "American" accents when singing in a huge swathe of popular American genres. My favourite is the Middle Class East Coast white boys who sing hard pop rock with a combination of Rural Texas and Newark, but speak with a slight lisp and an upward ending inflection...

As my mother used to say, "Just because you CAN hit that note, doesn't mean you SHOULD."

Interestingly enough, many times when female singers hit high notes, they are actually singing falsetto. It just sounds so similar that many people don't even realize female falsetto exists. Some vocal teachers still deny it's existence. Many times, this female falsetto is why female singers can hit really high notes that sound just as crappy as male singers singing falsetto frequently does.

That said, skilled male or female falsetto can be beautiful.

Yeah. This always happens to me when I mention a GENRE they've never heard of. You've never heard of the genre, yet you expect to know some weird song? Alriiiight.

My coworker who listens to mainly Three Days Grace and comparable stuff, always asks this, and is super surprised not to know some 21st century orchestral work, or 1980's spectral piece...

He's a fun guy. I like him.

Personal, biggest, song-ruining pet peeve for me though? Root-V basslines. You know, plodding, on the beat oompah-oompah, boom-chick type country basslines? I can be loving the track, and the bass player does that, and I'm done. can't help it. Hate it.

The exception is Beethoven spending a minute ending a piece with root-V-root-V-root.

Rant concluded.

-Generic sounding rock power chords. Just terrible.

-Skits. **** skits.

-When someone wants to come off as a good singer and starts imitating gospel/soul phrasing.

When backing vocalists are not all roughly the same height (or width). that's just...that's just not on!

This. Especially when they can't sing for ****. Worst part about high school Christmas concerts.

Oh, and this type of pop punk vocalists:

dave grohl is probably my least favorite musician on the planet right now. personality wise and his music is also boring af

I don't like it when people say they listen to anything. No one likes all types of music.

There's probably someone that does or did, as there have been so many people on this earth, but the problem is, the people who say this usually don't listen to everything at all.

And about those pop punk vocals, I ****ing hate them too. The type of pop punk you posted is music I despise, yet there's a lot of pop punk bands I absolutely love.

I hate when generic twelve-bar blues progressions are thrown in as half-assed filler tracks on otherwise fantastic albums. For example, CCR's Cosmos Factory, easily my favorite CCR album, fantastic standout tracks like Ramble Tamble, Run Through the Jungle, Who'll Stop the Rain, Up Around the Bend etc. But then you've got Oobie Doobie, My Baby Left Me, Before You Accuse Me etc, which aren't bad tracks, CCR are damn good at their twelve-bars, but it just bugs you because you know they have the songwriting talent to spice that **** up so much more, and when they're releasing 2 or 3 albums a year it's obvious that they were rushing (or being rushed). Don't get me wrong, I love me some twelve-bars, and I jump on the opportunity to jam twelve-bars any time I'm in the same room as another musician, but holy sweet **** are they overused by otherwise brilliant musicians.

This guy knows what's up.

For the most part I hate falsetto singing. There are a few exceptions.

I am not a fan of long intros especially if they're not layered or evolving. This also goes for songs that are so subtle in changes that they seem looped, such a Carnage Visors by the Cure. Almost 30 minutes long and nothing seems to be happening.

I also tend to get irritated when a song keeps repeating the same word throughout a song. Even though I like the Cars. Ric Ocasek is the worst offender. An example from one of his solo records.


"They Tried"
They tried to tear you away
Yeah, they tried
Oh, they tried to lie in your face
Yeah, they tried
Oh, they tried to tip you off sweetly
Yeah, they tried
Oh, they tried to get on your good side
Yeah they tried, they tried
They never got the picture
They never got the joke
They never felt your fire
They only saw the smoke
They tried to tell you what's right
Yeah, they tried
Oh, they tried to push you around, yeah
Oh, they tried to be what you wanted
They tried, they tried, they tried, yeah
They tried to get you for nothing, yeah
Oh, they tried
They never got too conspicuous
They never felt quite right
They never knew your darkness
They only saw your light
Oh, they tried to make you out stupid
They tried, they tried
Oh, they tried to come on like Cupid
They tried, they tried, they tried
Oh, they tried to tell you what's real
Oh, they tried
Yeah, they tried to stay on your heels
They tried, they tried, they tried
They never knew what ticked you
They never knew for sure
They always said they picked you
They never knew what for
Ah, but they tried
Oh, they tried to pick you apart
Yeah, they tried
Oh, they tried to be your best friend, yeah
Yeah, they tried to top you off sweetly
Yeah, they tried, yeah
To get on your good side, yeah
To get on your good side, yeah
To get on your good side, yeah
To get on your good side
They tried
To top you off sweetly
Yeah, they tried

All these quasi-hipster bands like Imagine Dragons that everyone seems to like for some reason. I can't reach for the radio dial faster if I tried whenever they come on.

Is that because you listen to the stero typical hipster music. Step away from the MBV record.....that's it, slooooowly.

When the band's lead singer gets the crowd to sing the chorus or other parts of the song. This is where the lead singer doesn't do any singing during this part.

What really bothers me is when they add the "crackling" sound, like as if it's playing on an old record or something. An example would be Incubus - Summer Romance. I have the tune cranked, I don't want to listen to crackling!

This is a notoriously bad habit for Rob Zombie, he'll literally sing like single words or half lines sometimes.

A lot of them do it. I think it might be because they can't hit the high notes live like they could on the album, or it's that they're on a long tour and the lead singer's voice is shot or something. That, or they're lazy or too strung out.

Even with otherwise good music, badly or awkwardly written polyphony drives me up the wall.

Mixing with too much damn reverb. (And/or bad reverb)

Conor Oberst's voice.

70s rock bands who have a 10 minute plus 'blues' number.

Songs that sound like a thousand other songs.

This is a really ****ing personal thing, but when I hear a song and the chords don't go the way I want them to it really pissed me off and turns me off to the song. Don't know why it just ****ing pisses me off.

It's even funnier when the audience don't know the words, or just couldn't be bothered. You end up with the singer sort of mouthing half the lines, realising nobody is going to join in and then coming in mid-sentence himself, like say

"Take it easy, take it easy. Don't let the" (pause as microphone held out over audience, no response) "... make you crazy." :laughing:
Followed by a few shouts of "Yeah!" meaning "You ****ing bastards let me down and made me look like an *******! I'm ****ed if we're ever coming here again!"

I think its more an attempt to engage the crowd but ok

lol

But... Interstellar Overdrive though.

On a rap project I hate when the artist has an interlude of him F*cking some chick and you can hear her moaning. It just makes the moment feel so awkward.

Old house music is joy

I think nearly every song does that. After the chorus and maybe the second verse you'll find so many songs that go up an octave. It is annoying but it happens so much now I think it's almost expected.

Really??

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If you mean a song lifting an entire section wholesale and just transposing it up, then yeah, that's hackneyed BS. Music would be pretty boring as a whole though without any key changes at all.

I hate this so much. It's all over the new Spoon album. Did you guys forget how to end songs?! Pushing the levels slowly down to zero is not closure!

That's called modulation. When done well it can work but some bands fall back on it as a gimmick.

Spinal Tap did a song where they did a bunch of modulations to poke fun at the practice.