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dca 05-08-2014 09:46 AM

bands/artists that didn't fulfill their promise...
 
ok, this is highly subjective....not looking for arguments, but would be interested to see some opinions about bands/singers/musicians etc. who for whatever reason didn't live up to their initial potential. could be because they split before really making an impact, or could be because they never lived up to their early material, or some other reason

what got me thinking about this was Garbage. I was already interested before I heard them just knowing Butch Vig was involved, who was already some kind of hero in my mind just for his production work on Nevermind and Siamese Dream. and then I remember being impressed with their debut single 'Vow'.



Good tune with some nods to Hole and maybe even a bit of MBV on the intro. But that seemed to be it, I never really liked another tune they did. It all became a bit electro-rock-pop by numbers and I got tired of Shirley Manson's twisted-girl-next-door type image. also I got a bit sick of Only Happy When It Rains after the 210588924th time of hearing it, that song got so much airplay I hope I never hear it again


my 2nd choice is Primal Scream which might seem a bit odd because they're massive and musically respected by loads of people. The reason is their initial 'promise' was their debut album Sonic Flower Groove, which is to this day one of the best jangly-indie-guitar pop albums I've ever heard.



The problem is they never sounded like this ever again. Their 2nd (self titled) album was more like standard blues rock, then they went all dancey on Screamadelica, then Blues Rocky again on Give Out But Don't Give Up, and seem to change styles with every album since then, which I respect, but they never persued their original direction which pisses me off(!)

so feel free to add on any artists you think qualify for this thread

Frownland 05-08-2014 09:47 AM

Madvillainy part 2.

bob. 05-08-2014 10:00 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GGConcert.jpg

promised to kill himself on stage and take a few fans with him....died like he lived....a loser and a junkie

dca 05-09-2014 07:49 AM

yikes, they don't call this place 'music banter' for nothing do they....


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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1448323)
Madvillainy part 2.

first one was excellent so I would like to hear this, if it ever comes out. Doom and madlib have both got impressive back catalogues though, so not sure it really counts.

not sure who that guy in the pic is.

Plankton 05-09-2014 10:42 AM

Zoetrope flopped after their third (official) album. Their contract had them slated for quite a few more, but they packed it up for good after that. They ended up owing Jam Productions a lot of money, and I watched it all happen firsthand.

GravitySlips 05-09-2014 10:54 AM

Apples in Stereo - I really liked their first album, there's some beautiful psychedelic pop tunes on it. I checked out a few more and they sounded like Blink 182 or something. No idea what happened to them. Awful.

Ride started off great as well but went badly downhill after Nowhere in my opinion.

Same with Dinosaur Jr after Bug.

sidewinder 05-09-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dca (Post 1448320)
what got me thinking about this was Garbage. I was already interested before I heard them just knowing Butch Vig was involved, who was already some kind of hero in my mind just for his production work on Nevermind and Siamese Dream. and then I remember being impressed with their debut single 'Vow'.

I think Garbage lived up to their name. Sorry I just could never stand them. ;)

GuD 05-09-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips (Post 1448634)
Apples in Stereo - I really liked their first album, there's some beautiful psychedelic pop tunes on it. I checked out a few more and they sounded like Blink 182 or something. No idea what happened to them. Awful.

Ride started off great as well but went badly downhill after Nowhere in my opinion.

Same with Dinosaur Jr after Bug
.

Really? I wasn't a huge fan of the newest album but the one before that was pretty good, imo. And almost every album Dino did after Bug had at least a few good tracks on um, albeit with some really lousy ones.

Black Francis 05-09-2014 01:45 PM

I agree with Garbage idk why but i had high hopes for that band but they didn't quite deliver.

Same with Weezer i used to love them but they kinda peaked by their 2nd album imo.

Sansa Stark 05-09-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1448325)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GGConcert.jpg

promised to kill himself on stage and take a few fans with him....died like he lived....a loser and a junkie

I dated someone who is apparently related to him so if that's true it totally runs in the fam

Electronic didn't live up to my expectations of being THE BEST THING EVER TO COME OUT OF MUSIC what with it combining two of my faves so I like to pretend it never happened

Frownland 05-09-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dca (Post 1448593)



first one was excellent so I would like to hear this, if it ever comes out. Doom and madlib have both got impressive back catalogues though, so not sure it really counts.

not sure who that guy in the pic is.

It was supposed to be released this year but they're taking their tine with it apparently. So all the announcements have just been tooling us basically.

GravitySlips 05-09-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1448663)
Really? I wasn't a huge fan of the newest album but the one before that was pretty good, imo. And almost every album Dino did after Bug had at least a few good tracks on um, albeit with some really lousy ones.

I agree, there's good tracks on most of their records. But to me they really toned it down after Bug, and even the good tracks don't have the edge that they had at the beginning.

I feel Mascis has been churning out the same stuff for years, and while he is definitely a good guitarist, I don't really follow them now. I haven't heard their last record - but yeah, Farm did have some good songs.

You're Living... is one of my all time favourites, though. I don't feel they came close to that level on any of their other records.

James 05-09-2014 05:21 PM

Interpol are the big one for me. I love their first two albums, their other two suck. Even with the first two I always felt they had the potential to do something special, which they never did. They never made the 'classic' that I know they could have made.

hate paper doll 05-09-2014 05:26 PM

I don't know if it would be more accurate to say they didn't live up to their promise or that their later albums were just disappointing, but Le Tigre. Nothing they put out after Feminist Sweepstakes was any good IMO.

Soulflower 05-09-2014 07:34 PM

D Angelo baby where is that album :(

Dylstew 05-10-2014 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1448667)
I dated someone who is apparently related to him so if that's true it totally runs in the fam

Electronic didn't live up to my expectations of being THE BEST THING EVER TO COME OUT OF MUSIC what with it combining two of my faves so I like to pretend it never happened

G.G Allin is ****ing retarded(well, that's kind of mean to retarded people but I have no other word to describe his stupidity). that's what I found out with a bit of research. What a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Scarlett O'Hara 05-10-2014 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dca (Post 1448320)
ok, this is highly subjective....not looking for arguments, but would be interested to see some opinions about bands/singers/musicians etc. who for whatever reason didn't live up to their initial potential. could be because they split before really making an impact, or could be because they never lived up to their early material, or some other reason

what got me thinking about this was Garbage. I was already interested before I heard them just knowing Butch Vig was involved, who was already some kind of hero in my mind just for his production work on Nevermind and Siamese Dream. and then I remember being impressed with their debut single 'Vow'.

I agree with what you're saying, but I do like to listen to their earlier albums. It is a shame they didn't keep up the momentum.

Dylstew 05-10-2014 06:51 AM

I think Maximum the Hormone didn't live up to their potential with the new release of ''Yoshu Fukushu''. They improved album after album(the first one being terrible). Their previous album bu-ikikaesu was great, but I felt like it still didn't have their true potential. The new album Yoshu Fukushu has two songs that I find their best, but as an album it's not all that great. Some of the songs are also way longer than they should be, and just plain boring. I think it was a step down from bu-ikikaesu.

Psy-Fi 05-10-2014 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1448325)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GGConcert.jpg

promised to kill himself on stage and take a few fans with him....died like he lived....a loser and a junkie

"With GG, you don't get what you expect—you get what you deserve." - GG Allin

Before he died, I heard a rumor that he was going to shove a stick of dynamite up his ass on the fourth of July and blow himself up.

Imagine my disappointment when I heard he had expired from something as pedestrian as a heroin overdose.

Psy-Fi 05-11-2014 10:45 AM

Any band/artist who had a "Farewell" tour and still continues to tour afterwards.

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

sidewinder 05-11-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1448665)
Same with Weezer i used to love them but they kinda peaked by their 2nd album imo.

Agreed, though IMO they peaked on their first album.

Black Francis 05-11-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 1449116)
Agreed, though IMO they peaked on their first album.

What bothers me about Weezer is that I KNOW they still can make the kind of songs they made in the past, it wasn't a fluke, they weren't a one hit wonder ya know? they had talent but they seem to chose the route of making mainstream hits..

which i get, one crappy hit single that gets air play will get them more money than a good song that's unpopular..

like you i do think the blue album is their best work but pinkerton has 'Across the sea' which is probably my fav weezer song.


Paul Smeenus 05-11-2014 03:34 PM

Forced Entry could have headlined shows here over almost any of the famous Seattle bands before Nevermind was released. Yet most of you have never heard of them






My Sister's Machine never made it out of here either, another headline act before the stupid music press decided that Seattle was worth some money to them




hate paper doll 05-11-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1449121)
What bothers me about Weezer is that I KNOW they still can make the kind of songs they made in the past, it wasn't a fluke, they weren't a one hit wonder ya know? they had talent but they seem to chose the route of making mainstream hits..

which i get, one crappy hit single that gets air play will get them more money than a good song that's unpopular..

like you i do think the blue album is their best work but pinkerton has 'Across the sea' which is probably my fav weezer song.



I like them both but my heart belongs to Pinkerton. I don't hate the green album but I haven't bought anything they've put out past that.

I think the biggest thing stopping Weezer from duplicating that level of success is the fact that Rivers Cuomo just doesn't want to get that personal again. He was dealing with physical pain from surgery, being bipolar, feeling lonely and disillusioned with the rock star life etc etc, and that resulted in some really emotional material.

Black Francis 05-11-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1449152)
I like them both but my heart belongs to Pinkerton. I don't hate the green album but I haven't bought anything they've put out past that.

I think the biggest thing stopping Weezer from duplicating that level of success is the fact that Rivers Cuomo just doesn't want to get that personal again. He was dealing with physical pain from surgery, being bipolar, feeling lonely and disillusioned with the rock star life etc etc, and that resulted in some really emotional material.

Good point, i never thought of it like that their later work does seem very unpersonal.

Stephen 03-02-2017 04:24 AM

Would have liked another Sneaker Pimps album led by Kelli Dayton. Her vocals pretty much defined the band's sound so it didn't make much sense dumping her.

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