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Carpe Mortem 09-15-2014 04:55 PM

The journey never ends, man. Still evolving.

Been on the hunt for more rockabilly lately, I've barely scratched the surface. Recommendations with a western kick much appreciated.

Pet_Sounds 09-15-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1488025)
The journey never ends, man. Still evolving.

Been on the hunt for more rockabilly lately, I've barely scratched the surface. Recommendations with a western kick much appreciated.

The Everly Brothers
Johnny Cash
CCR

Just off the top of my head. Can't think of anything current.

Glad to see you stuck around, Carpe. You were just establishing yourself when I left, and our paths haven't crossed since. :beer:

Carpe Mortem 09-15-2014 08:27 PM

Life's been super busy lately, I'll pop in sometimes though. Also will check out those bands and let ya know how I liked them.

:beer:

Grogsy 09-15-2014 08:36 PM

Carpe, I'm enjoying Imelda May's songs. Try Johnny Got a Boom Boom.



Black Francis 09-16-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1487907)
In my experience, the people who say that are the type who are just starting to explore music, and are branching out enough to feel superior to other people, while still being too ignorant of just how much music is out there to know just how narrow their taste really is. Either that or they're just mediocre music fans in general with an inferiority complex.

i also luv how they wait to answer after you tell your answers.
they think they're sneaky and can hide behind your answer and just nod along avoiding talking about a specific band or genre.

if ppl ask me what is my favourite band i quickly say the pixies and from that i assume the person will know i also listen to bands similar to them or within that genre and i'll name other bands regardless if he knows them or not.

ppl like that rather like everything superficially to be accepted than to passionately like a specific thing at the risk of not being accepted.

Carpe Mortem 09-16-2014 03:11 PM

I don't tell people my favorite genre is doom because the average person isn't familiar with nerdy subgenres, I'll usually just say I like Black Sabbath and their offspring.

Black Francis 09-16-2014 03:36 PM

At least Sabbath is a solid reference but when ppl say "i listen to everything" without actually naming anything it's kinda stupid.

Janszoon 09-16-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488190)
i also luv how they wait to answer after you tell your answers.
they think they're sneaky and can hide behind your answer and just nod along avoiding talking about a specific band or genre.

if ppl ask me what is my favourite band i quickly say the pixies and from that i assume the person will know i also listen to bands similar to them or within that genre and i'll name other bands regardless if he knows them or not.

ppl like that rather like everything superficially to be accepted than to passionately like a specific thing at the risk of not being accepted.

I don't know man. I really passionately like a lot of different things. That's what makes it hard for me to name a favorite genre or band, not superficiality. The only way I feel that I can truly answer questions about favorites is to give a very long-winded answer and I know most people aren't interested in hearing that.

Black Francis 09-16-2014 03:49 PM

It's ok if you like alot of bands and you have a broad music taste but at least name a couple of bands that serve as a reference to what you like don't just say you like everything without giving examples of it cause that's when i start to assume you're just being pretentious.

Frownland 09-16-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488205)
It's ok if you like alot of bands and you have a broad music taste but at least name a couple of bands that serve as a reference to what you like don't just say you like everything without giving examples of it cause that's when i start to assume you're just being pretentious.

But I AM pretentious.

Janszoon 09-16-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488205)
It's ok if you like alot of bands and you have a broad music taste but at least name a couple of bands that serve as a reference to what you like don't just say you like everything without giving examples of it cause that's when i start to assume you're just being pretentious.

I don't say "I like everything" because I don't like everything. I usually say something like, "I like a lot of stuff. Jazz, metal, hip hop, punk, electronica—you name it." I find it extremely hard to name off bands that will serve as any kind of helpful reference points for people. When I was younger it was a lot easier, I had an easy handful of favorite artists I could rattle off, but as I've gotten older and been exposed to more and more things, that list has gotten longer and longer, to the point where I have no idea how to frame it in a way that encapsulates my taste or would be remotely helpful for anyone else.

The Batlord 09-16-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1488209)
I don't say "I like everything" because I don't like everything.

Which is the point. The people who do specifically say they like "everything", are almost always full of ****. They're not just exaggerating, not just innocently ignorant, but actively being pretentious douchenozzles. Every time I have ever heard anyone say this, this has been the case. Every time.

Black Francis 09-16-2014 04:18 PM

All you need is a couple of solid references Janzoon.

Though i don't entirely know your music taste i know you like The Talking Heads and TMBG and it's cause you mentioned them but if i didn't know you and you told me exactly what you said

"i like a lot of stuff. Jazz, metal, hip hop, punk, electronica—you name it."

i would've rolled my eyes at you. :laughing:

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1488207)
But I AM pretentious.

So am i to an extent :p:

i had a friend who was really into Creed back when they were popular and i once told him i thought Creed was a decent band. :crazy:

I quickly regretted saying it cause he started talking to me about their songs and he was so genuinely into it i just couldn't tell him i actually hated the band.

From that little experience i learned if i don't like a band somebody loves i rather don't say anything than pretend i like them too.

I betrayed myself that day just to be nice and it felt wrong.

Mondo Bungle 09-16-2014 04:19 PM

I don't even know everything. For example, I have never considered diving into the traditional music of Vanuatu.

And I am incredibly pretentious, every second. Every single week, there is literally never more than one color band photo on my last.fm's top artists of the last 7 days.

Janszoon 09-16-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1488212)
Which is the point. The people who do specifically say they like "everything", are almost always full of ****. They're not just exaggerating, not just innocently ignorant, but actively being pretentious douchenozzles. Every time I have ever heard anyone say this, this has been the case. Every time.

I don't generally hear it from pretentious people, I feel like I usually hear it from people who are not very knowledgeable about what is really included under the umbrella of "everything". If you were to ask them what some of their favorite Chinese classical songs were, I'm sure they'd acknowledge that what they mean is "every kind of music that is popular in the circles I travel in".

Janszoon 09-16-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488213)
All you need is a couple of solid references Janzoon.

Though i don't entirely know your music taste i know you like The Talking Heads and TMBG and it's cause you mentioned them but if i didn't know you and you told me exactly what you said

"i like a lot of stuff. Jazz, metal, hip hop, punk, electronica—you name it."

i would've rolled my eyes at you. :laughing:

"A couple solid references" doesn't cover it though. Who am I supposed to mention?

The problem is that telling people I like Talking Heads and They Might Be Giants doesn't give much of a picture of my tastes at all since they're both bands that may have a special place in my heart because they were on my shortlist of favorites when I was 15 but are bands I rarely listen to as a 37 year old.

Black Francis 09-16-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1488217)
The problem is that telling people I like Talking Heads and They Might Be Giants doesn't give much of a picture of my tastes at all since they're both bands that may have a special place in my heart because they were on my shortlist of favorites when I was 15 but are bands I rarely listen to as a 37 year old.

it doesn't matter if any band you mention doesn't capture the entirety of your music taste all you need to do is give out a few to serve as a reference.

just say whtvr band you're listening to atm that should be enough.

Janszoon 09-16-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488221)
it doesn't matter if any band you mention doesn't capture the entirety of your music taste all you need to do is give out a few to serve as a reference.

just say whtvr band you're listening to atm that should be enough.

The last artist I listened to was either Bongripper or Leroy Van Dyke. I'm not sure that's very helpful in giving people a sense of what I like.

The Batlord 09-16-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1488215)
I don't generally hear it from pretentious people, I feel like I usually hear it from people who are not very knowledgeable about what is really included under the umbrella of "everything". If you were to ask them what some of their favorite Chinese classical songs were, I'm sure they'd acknowledge that what they mean is "every kind of music that is popular in the circles I travel in".

And they would probably get defensive and act like a dick because you exposed them for being full of ****.

Janszoon 09-16-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1488225)
And they would probably get defensive and act like a dick because you exposed them for being full of ****.

Honestly, if I actually said that to someone I'd think it was me that was acting like a dick. The fact is that the average person is not an obsessive geek about music like I am and it seems like kind of a dumb thing for me to act high and mighty about.

The Batlord 09-16-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1488228)
Honestly, if I actually said that to someone I'd think it was me that was acting like a dick. The fact is that the average person is not an obsessive geek about music like I am and it seems like kind of a dumb thing for me to act high and mighty about.

You don't have to be a dick about it. Just actually try to talk to them about music, and if they don't know anything about what you're talking about, they'll probably give you a look that could curdle milk.

neardeathexperience 09-17-2014 03:02 PM

Right after the Beatles arrived and all those other bands followed my taste developed quickly............

Dylstew 09-17-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1488013)
I wonder if saying "I listen to lots of things" or "i like Yellow Swans and Immolation" is more of a conversation killer. It has nothing to do with feeling above anyone else, it's just a safe way to cover more bases without being immediately pigeon-holed. Should I be listing off every genre I like listening to?

List the base genres, just give examples. Punk, Rock, Metal, Blues, Jazz, Hip Hop, etc, it'll usually go off from there.

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1488199)
I don't tell people my favorite genre is doom because the average person isn't familiar with nerdy subgenres, I'll usually just say I like Black Sabbath and their offspring.

Just tell them you listen to Metal, and if you say what kind of Metal you prefer , tell them what Doom Metal basically is in a sentence or two, I don't think it would be that difficult.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1488203)
I don't know man. I really passionately like a lot of different things. That's what makes it hard for me to name a favorite genre or band, not superficiality. The only way I feel that I can truly answer questions about favorites is to give a very long-winded answer and I know most people aren't interested in hearing that.

You can still just give examples of things or genres you've listened to. At least start with the base genres, there''s a lot less of them to list than sub genres :P. Then people will usually ask about one of the base genres you like. Just explain yourself, just tell that your examples are not fully representative, but just to give an idea. If they don't know about a band, you can always give a short explenation, just to give them an idea.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1488213)
All you need is a couple of solid references Janzoon.

Though i don't entirely know your music taste i know you like The Talking Heads and TMBG and it's cause you mentioned them but if i didn't know you and you told me exactly what you said

"i like a lot of stuff. Jazz, metal, hip hop, punk, electronica—you name it."

i would've rolled my eyes at you. :laughing:



So am i to an extent :p:

i had a friend who was really into Creed back when they were popular and i once told him i thought Creed was a decent band. :crazy:

I quickly regretted saying it cause he started talking to me about their songs and he was so genuinely into it i just couldn't tell him i actually hated the band.

From that little experience i learned if i don't like a band somebody loves i rather don't say anything than pretend i like them too.

I betrayed myself that day just to be nice and it felt wrong.

I have a friend that listens to a lot of k-pop/j-pop and electronic music, which he knows I'm not a fan of, but I don't flat out say what I really think about some of those artists. At least we found one band in common: Maximum the Hormone.

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1488214)
I don't even know everything. For example, I have never considered diving into the traditional music of Vanuatu.

And I am incredibly pretentious, every second. Every single week, there is literally never more than one color band photo on my last.fm's top artists of the last 7 days.

That's what I mean, I know you listen to a ****load of music, and even then you barely know every genre that exists.
The thing is, I mostly hear this phrase from people who don't know much about music. People who barely ever even listen to albums. They just don't know.
Either that or..someone pretentious, so you're sort of right. Once I even got someone that whined about genre labelling and how genres were pointless...I guess it's a defence mechanism for calling a pretentious person out on this..*sigh*.

Forward To Death 09-17-2014 11:18 PM

I've always had a very diverse taste in music. When I was a kid I liked rock (esp. the industrial stuff that was coming out in the mid/late 90s), metal, and a little bit of hip-hop kind of stuff (Eminem's Slim Shady LP was my first CD), and quite a bit of top 40 type stuff as well as whatever my parents listened to (almost always classic rock). Grew up to appreciate alternative and some of the heavier stuff, got way into hip-hop (especially golden age and Ninja Tune type stuff), and honestly I can't really come up with a style that I think is best.

Punk is great, metal is great, electronic stuff is great, and there's really never a time where I've said that I was content with the amount of music I've listened to because there's so much I haven't heard. The more you hear, the more you love it. Sometimes I like to listen to Pandora or search random stuff on last.fm just to find something I've never heard before and I'm never disappointed.

24 years and counting.

HellCell 09-19-2014 07:28 PM

When did you discover your genre of choice?
Generally, my favored genre is metal (of many varieties) and it's been this way since 2010. I discovered my interest simply by listening to a lot of music but my ears followed the route to metal.
Internet radio and YouTube has been a major catalyst as an important note.

When did you discover your favourite band/artist?
Like many here, favorites is a concept that's too black and white. I will say a notable artist, Norther, was discovered first through Pandora as I was listening to my Dimmu Borgir radio station.

When did you last discover a new genre?
None of the genres I've listened to has been profoundly new, but I didn't realize the name of the music I listened to was symphonic metal until 2010. Does that count? Nor did I dive deep into it until that year either.

Would you consider your tastes set in stone?
It's fairly rigid. I still haven't been big into jazz, classical, r & b, pop, rap, country, etc. that's outside of my umbrella.
Set in stone I can't say. I reckon few people are that 2 dimensional.

Overall, how long have you held your current tastes?
2010-Present. I could travel back in time show the exact same music to my old self and I bet he would enjoy it. Before that.. Would be interesting because I listened to the local radio station and MTV as my influence.

Norg 09-20-2014 12:36 AM

not long imma say about 2 weeks

Justthefacts 09-21-2014 10:03 PM

Well, it all started with this:

http://www.stereogum.com/files/2009/...one_decade.jpg

This issue got me into all the great records:
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Radiohead - Kid A (and all Radiohead for that matter)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell
My Morning Jacket - Z
LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver

And so many more. So honestly my whole perception of music at the time was flipped on its side. I was hearing all these new sounds at once and my then current taste of music evolved within a year or so.


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