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DwnWthVwls 04-21-2015 05:05 PM

It's been 5 days slacker.

Frownland 04-21-2015 05:07 PM

Sorry man.

I vote for Stanley. The Son House song is great and has emotion, but I get straight chills whenever I hear O Death.

Ralph Stanley - 2
Son House - 4

Trollheart 04-21-2015 05:12 PM

You wanna call this man. People are losing inter --- um, what was I saying...?

Lisnaholic 04-22-2015 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1579840)
You wanna call this man. People are losing inter --- um, what was I saying...?

^ :laughing: Yes, I quite agree !

High Times ribbons posted her contenders again, I think.
(Thanks for the International Times link, ribbons; it never occurred to me that they´d have a website - using the same old girl-with-headband logo as always, I was amused to see.)

Frownland 04-22-2015 07:28 PM

ribbons actually wanted to be removed from the list because she won't have access to the Internet for a while. So you're up, Lisna.

Trollheart 04-22-2015 07:37 PM

Lis-na-hol-ic! Lis-na-hol-ic! :tramp:

DwnWthVwls 04-23-2015 04:13 PM

Why are you jumping on him... he didn't do anything to you.

Trollheart 04-23-2015 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1580626)
Why are you jumping on him... he didn't do anything to you.

I'm an excitable person. I'm chanting and jumping in the air. D'uh! :)

Lisnaholic 04-23-2015 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1580274)
Lis-na-hol-ic! Lis-na-hol-ic! :tramp:

^ :laughing: Thanks Trollheart ! I hope the following doesn´t take the bounce out of your trampoline. In fact, I´d like to say how much I´m enjoying this thread and the way it encourages us to explore the world of a capella together; I´ve also been interested see how a capella favours some genres over others.

Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a clear historical progression as well ? Songs have moved steadily from the sacred to the profane; from Gregorian chant, through gospel, barbershop, blues and pop to rap. But a capella also features strongly in traditional English folk music, and as we haven´t seen examples from that genre yet, that´s where my selections come:-


Spoiler for for lyrics:

Well met, well met, my friend, all on the highway riding,
Though freely together here we stand.
I pray do tell to me of what calling this shall be
And art thou not a servingman?

Oh no, my brother dear, what makes you to inquire
Of any such thing from my hand?
Indeed I will not feign but I will tell you plain:
I am a downright husbandman.

Well, if a husbandman you be, will go walk with me,
Though freely together here we stand.
For in a very short space I may take you to a place
Where you may he a servingman.

Now still I'm diligence, I give thee many thanks,
But naught do I require from thine hand.
But I pray now to me show wherefor that I may know
The pleasures of a servingman.

Well, isn't it a nice thing to ride out with a king,
With lords, dukes or any such men;
For to hear the horn to blow and see the hounds all in a row,
That's pleasures of a servingman.

But my pleasure's more than that, to see my oxen fat
And a good stock of hay by them stand;
With my plowing and my sowing, my reaping and my mowing,
That's pleasures of an husbandman.

But then we do wear the finest of grandure,
My coat is trim with fur all around;
Our shirts are white as milk and my stockings made of silk:
That's clothing for a servingman.

As to thy grandure give I the coat I wear
Some bushes to ramble among;
Give to me a good greatcoat and in my purse a grout,
That's clothing for an husbandman.

But then we do eat the most delicate fine meat
Of goose, and of capon, and of swan;
Our pastry's made so fine, we drink sugar in our wine,
That's diet for a servingman.

While you eat ducks and capons, give I my beans and bacon,
And a good drop of ale now and then;
For in a farmer's house you will find both brawn and souse,
That's a living for an husbandman.

Kind sir, I must confess although it causes me distress
To grant to you the uppermost hand;
Although it is most painful, it is altogether gainful
And I wish I'd been a husbandman.

So now, good people all, both be you great and small,
All know the king of our land;
And let us, whatsoever, to do our best endeavor,
For to maintain an husbandman.

Spoiler for back story:
In the 60s folk revival, lots of bands took folk songs and turned them into pop or rock. Young Tradition condemned themselves to obscurity by their purist approach – letting folk music sound like folk music. This song is a lively dialogue between a soldier and a farmer , which seems to date back to Shakespeare´s day and is dripping with delicious anachronisms:-
Quote:

The Husbandman and the Servingman is part of the medieval mummers play The Seven Champions of Christendom from Symondsbury near Bridport, Dorset, and is a heated discussion about the merits or otherwise of being employed or independent. In Shakespeare's time most English villages had their local amateur acting companies, who on Christmas or Plough Monday performed traditional dramas in the streets or the halls of great houses. This custom has now almost died out. Peter Kennedy recorded on Christmas 1951 in Symondsbury a fragment of revived but genuine version of this play which has been included in the Alan Lomax Collection CD World Library of Folk and Primitive Music: England.
Peter Bellamy starring as the servingman (employed soldier) and Royston Wood as the husbandman (farmer) sang alternate verses of The Husbandman and the Servingman on The Young Tradition's last LP, Galleries.

VS.


Spoiler for lyrics:

Some old salty, how he used to rock me.
Jelly roll or Jerry Lee, how he used to rock me.
Salt fare. North Sea.
Weird stare, further than the eye can see.
He had a head like a toy shop.
Bow legged stance off, must have been the rolling sea.
Hull Fair waltzers, bopping to Brenda Lee.
River boat jazz cruise, jiving to the Two-Nineteen.
Down there for dancing, come on Mr Chester please.
Play “Deliah's gone” for one more round, some old Salty's on his feet.

Spoiler for back story:
In the same era, The Waterson family were probably the best-known group on the purists' folk club circuit, but the song I´ve chosen is deceptive; sounds like an old sea shanty, but was written, perhaps as recently as 1996 by Lal Waterson, youngest member of the Waterson clan. To keep things in the family, she sings it with her son, Oliver.

One of the song's rather criptic references is to "the two nineteen". This was the name of a UK skiffle group, active in the 1950s, who usually wrote their name, "The 2.19"

Plankton 04-24-2015 07:34 AM

Love the additional references you use Lisna. It does tie things together nicely. I'll have to go with Some Old Salty. Better melody, and harmonies in that. Plus, I lived in unit 219 when I was a young one, so it spoke to me somewhat intimately.

S.O.S. - 1
The S. and the H. - 0


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