^ Aha! Yes, I have the soundtrack of Oh Brother somewhere around....
I agree, Safe As Milk is the best place to start; his first album, accesible but extraordinary too. It was apparently a personal favourite of John Lennon´s. After that you might like to jump forward to Clear Spot and The Spotlight Kid, Pet_Sounds. They are solid albums that are easier to get into than TMR, which does require some dedication although it is undoubtedly his masterpiece. I´d be curious to know how you get on, so please keep us posted, ok? |
Nice Safe As Milk trivia you noted there, Lisnaholic -- Lennon was a SAM fan (see photo in which John has two of the SAM bumper stickers on a cabinet in his Weybridge home) and so was George Harrison (see sticker behind George on the door of his Esher bungalow).
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lol ! Where did you find two such obscure but right on the nail photos ?? That´s extraordinary! I see that JL is reading the international times. Back in the day that was the hippie newspaper in the UK !
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I wanna go again if we are doing another round :D
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You're in the lineup to go again, you can find it in the OP. I'm moving ribbons to the top of the list since she says she has a battle picked out.
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I'm the only one for Ralph... if you put the lyrical content aside you guys still like Son House better? His voice is pretty abrasive to me.
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It's been 5 days slacker.
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Sorry man.
I vote for Stanley. The Son House song is great and has emotion, but I get straight chills whenever I hear O Death. Ralph Stanley - 2 Son House - 4 |
You wanna call this man. People are losing inter --- um, what was I saying...?
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ribbons actually wanted to be removed from the list because she won't have access to the Internet for a while. So you're up, Lisna.
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Lis-na-hol-ic! Lis-na-hol-ic! :tramp:
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Why are you jumping on him... he didn't do anything to you.
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Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a clear historical progression as well ? Songs have moved steadily from the sacred to the profane; from Gregorian chant, through gospel, barbershop, blues and pop to rap. But a capella also features strongly in traditional English folk music, and as we haven´t seen examples from that genre yet, that´s where my selections come:- Spoiler for for lyrics:
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Love the additional references you use Lisna. It does tie things together nicely. I'll have to go with Some Old Salty. Better melody, and harmonies in that. Plus, I lived in unit 219 when I was a young one, so it spoke to me somewhat intimately.
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^ Thanks, Plankton ! I guess I can' t shrug off the habit they teach you at school to categorize, classify and summarize everything!
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S.O.S. - 1 I loved both--great selections, Lisna. Had it been another day, my vote might have gone the other way, but as it is, The Husbandman and the Servingman's lyrics gave it a very slight edge. |
Something about the first one just grabs me more. I like the parts where they sing alone the best.
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Lisna, two excellent a cappella posted by you here - and both of them so different, which made it difficult to choose. I kept mulling (Hull-ing? ;)) over the backstories you posted, which were very helpful especially in the case of Some Old Salty because I was surprised to learn it is a fairly contemporary song. I also like the more compact song structure of Salty and its charming lyrics (with references perhaps to Hull trawlermen with their yellow hats: "Salt fare, North Sea. Weird stare, further than the eye can see. He had a head like a toy shop, bow legged stance off. Must have been the rolling sea."
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Hey, I'm very pleased that you guys are enjoying the Young Tradition and Lal Waterson songs; that was my hope all along. For me as well, surprise surprise, both are great demonstrations of how effective a capella can be.
Welcome back, ribbons ! Those lines you quote, are a very neat, very succinct description, aren't they? But on balance, I go with Dwnwthvwls and Pet_Sounds and vote for the Young Tradition - the two voices are so distinct but each does a wonderful job of breathing life into those old words; I even love the way they drop the "h" on "usbandman." In fact, at age 18, by chance, I picked up "The YT Sampler" album below and fell in love with them when I heard this track - one of those rare moments when you are just blown away by a piece of music:- The votes so far:- The S and the H : 3 S.O.S. : 2 |
Lisna, thanks for the welcome back (I was away due to my mother’s surgery, and am glad to report she is recovering well). Thank you as well for introducing me to these artists, neither of which I had heard before. I’m very intrigued by The Young Tradition now. And I really like “Byker Hill” with its three part harmonies and monolithic aura punctuated by that occasional drum – which seem to suit its theme as a coal miner’s rights song. I listened to a number of YT songs tonight and will likely purchase one of their CDs soon. Thanks to you, my earworm at present is “Chicken on a Raft”! :)
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That's good that your mother is recovering, ribbons. I know that when our parents have an operation, it can be as worrying for the children as for the parent, so I hope everything continues well for your mum.
Chicken on a Raft! Haha! Welcome to the world of Young Tradition! That' s a great track, though I never really worked out what it' s about. I'm really pleased that you like Byker Hill, which you describe so well. Apparently Peter Bellamy would sometimes use a long broomhandle with bells attached, which he would bang on the stage floor when YT played live - so maybe that' s what we're hearing on Byker Hill. Whatever it is, it really adds a sombre touch to the song. Strange to say, I could never convince any of my friends to like YT, so your interest makes me especially happy. Rather unexpectedly, after waiting forty years I can finally share my enthusiasm. Thank you, MB, and thank you, ribbons ! :) |
I must admit, I've been letting this slip (the odd other thing to do, y'know?) ;) but I want to get in before this closes.
Have to say I really didn't like the first song at all (too many singers, switching it around, up and down?) but really enjoyed the second, which seemed to me to have a sort of African chant about it (would give an example but I think I'll use it in my next battle) plus the sea shanty idea worked too. Great harmonies, very smooth. Definitely give my vote to that. The S and the H: 3 SOS: 3 |
Lisna, thank you for your understanding and kind wishes for my mother. She continues to get stronger and is doing very well.
On a lighter note, “Hi ho, chicken on a raft, hey ho, chicken on a raaaffffftttt!” Still ringing my ears! :laughing: I don’t understand what the song is about either – perhaps a nautical dictionary would help – but I’ve read that “chicken on a raft” is slang for fried egg on fried bread. Did a seaman’s fried egg on fried bread get overly mushly or spoiled at sea, I wonder? And why on a Monday? So many questions to ponder while thinking of chickens on rafts. :) That’s a great anecdote about Peter Bellamy using a broomhandle with bells attached during performances of “Byker Hill”. That could well be what we hear on the studio recording. Gives the song a fitting “sombre” touch as you stated, and gives me a bit of a start each time I hear it. I’ve ordered a double CD of Young Tradition/So Cheerfully Round/Galleries/Chicken On a Raft (EP). A bargain! Thank you again for sharing your enthusiasm for YT, a group I for one didn’t even know about before. Looks like I have a treasure trove of listening in store. And so, with Trollheart’s vote we now have a tie with 3 points each for The S. and the H. and S.O.S. |
Really loved the vocal style of the Servingmen track. The other track was good, but I felt a lot more passion in the first one so I'll go with that.
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Sure, thanks, Frownland. I was originally in the spot right after Micco, so you can put me back there.
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When is this wrapping up? It's on page 2 now, and I'm ready with my battle... :pssst:
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That's a win for Young Tradition. Trollheart, your turn to post a battle.
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Thanks man. I first heard this at the beginning of the Peter Gabriel protest song "Biko" and it really stuck with me. It's actually the South African national anthem.
Nkosi sikelel iafrica by The Soweto Gospel Choir and in total contrast, this is from Epicloud by Devin Townsend Effervescent! by Devin Townsend Project (Sorry, I couldn't get it on its own. It only lasts 45 seconds so if you want you can turn the video off after that) |
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Townsend: The opening bars reminded me of Queen for some reason, and nothing in the subsequent 45 secs was good enough to dispell that disagreeable impression, so my vote goes to:- Soweto: This didn't have any of the military bombast you might expect from a national anthem. In fact it's a charming song that doesn't even have a hook as far as I could tell. Given the history of SA, I couldn' t help noticing that the choir were black and the audience were (mainly) white; it made the warmth of the applause and the palpable good cheer of the performers quite moving, imo. Soweto Choir: 1 Devin Townsend: 1 |
I like Townsend, but god I can't stand that record. Too cheesy for its own good. The anthem gets it for me because I thought it sounded more organic in a way.
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