I have to agree on dubstep I mean it'd be cool if it actually had some substance to it but it all ends up sounding the same. It's the same problem I have with EDM.

Like any genre it has internal subgenres and like any genre it has some incredible unseen talent. The dubstep you hear coming from clubs is its own sick breed, there is some incredibly tasteful well-made dubstep out there, and if you're interested in hearing it I can definitely share some, I truly believe you'll enjoy it.

Yeah I probably am still very close minded to a lot of it seeing as I haven't given it too much of a chance. If you want to you can rec me some stuff that I'll try out.

I don't listen to opera. I feel like I should give it a serious chance since it's obviously a significant style of music, but I don't think I've ever heard even a snippet of it that sounded appealing.

I'm not much of a dubstep guy myself but I'm really into drum & bass and the two worlds cross over a bit sometimes so I've inadvertently come across some artists that absolutely blew my mind. Electronic music is a really easy genre to hate because I think more than other genre it's absolutely plagued by its surface material. Most people immediately think of the club scene when they hear the words "electronic music" and the popular club scene is just a mess, very unappealing to most people, especially to people looking for genuine honest creativity. And that really sucks because some of the most incredible musical innovations on Earth are happening behind the scenes in electronic music, some seriously innovative ****, mind boggling ****. I'd go as far as saying electronic music is the most aggressively creative world in music today, it's just so heavily buried under a mountain of glow sticks and shot glasses.

First, please don't continue unless you've got some good headphones (even if it is only YouTube).
For anyone interested in giving perhaps the most hated genre in music a 2nd chance:

Misanthrop is a drum & bass producer most days, but his occasional experiments in dubstep are beautiful and intricate. If you're not familiar with complex bass textures in electronic music this track might take you off guard and show you some sounds you've never heard in your life, please listen with equipment capable of handling sub bass frequencies. This is actually one of my favorite songs of all time:


Broken Note among many other artists on the Ad Noiseam label have produced some extremely tasteful takes on dubstep. The key thing to keep in mind is that most electronic music genres are literally only walled in by rhythmic structures and tempo ranges, sound choice is always completely up to the artist, and with the freedom that digital production grants an artist incredible textures can be built:


Hecq's album Avenger is quite accessible while still demonstrating some pretty interesting production techniques. Ironically Hecq is not primarily a dubstep producer, this album was allegedly his attempt at seeing what could be done within the genre's walls, and the result was quite impressive:

Same here. I think the singing is just overblown to the point of being cartoonish. If they weren't committed to being as technically impressive as possible then I highly doubt that vocal style would have ever developed. I did dig Wagner's Ring Cycle though. But that's mostly because it was on TV, so there were subtitles, and there was a big, expensive, high-tech production made of it, so it felt like watching a live action fantasy movie... with goofy singing.

Stravinsky's A Rake's Progress is an opera worth checking out imo.

Alright I'm gonna check these out at some point today hopefully you have piqued my interest. Also I should note that I ****ing LOVE electronic music it's just really some of the more club-like stuff that I can't usually get into.

Depends how much you've listened to. Skream sounds different to Burial, who sounds different to Sukh Knight/True Tiger which is more like bassy/warped Hip-Hop imo...

I can understand why people wouldn't like it though. I'm not really big on it any more and haven't heard anything I've liked in years but I loved it a few years ago. If you've not heard Benga's album (Diary of an Afro Warrior) or Sukh Knight's 'Cheeze Loueez EP' you should get on that if you want recs. If you want it send me a PM and I'll get it for you cos it might be hard to find.

The Sukh Knight EP is only 6 tracks all of them are bangers. He's got a load of his tracks vocalled by MC's as well, though while I like them it'd be hard to say they have much substance.

I've listened to almost no "stereotypical" dubstep, but I am completely confused how Burial has anything to do with Skrillex. One is dull techno that I don't even care to classify, while the other is almost ambient. Confused.