A song you love from a band/artist you can't stand?
 

Does anyone have a single song they really like from a band who's output and reputation they generally dislike?

I'll start. I really don't like any of Rihanna's music (I'm not into current pop music at all really), but I'm digging FourFiveSeconds. That might partly be down to McCartney's name being involved.



So, do any of you have similar examples? Maybe a band/artist you didn't like at all, until a new release changed your mind?

^Yeah, that's a great example. Rihanna's vocals are pretty raw, while Kanye kind of ruins the whole thing.

Don't care for the artist much, and the whole tag line, catch phrase thing is a bit much for me, but the groove in this is pretty tight for a pop tune.

I usually hate 30 seconds to mars but a beautiful lie with the slow mo shadows and such and the song is not that bad once you get used to it.
Staind to me was always a little laughable cause their singer was always bummed out. apart from fade i don't like any other track they made.

Around half of the tracks from Yeezus fall into this category for me, most notably The Black Skinhead and I Am a God.

I already do something like this in my journal (shut up Trollheart: is there any idea you don't claim as your own? :rolleyes: ) and this is the first. I can't stand Wham! but this song is just too good not to listen to.
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Ah, sorry... It's more a case of me thinking this was a novel and original idea when I should have realised it probably wasn't. Been meaning to check the Journal out, so this is an excuse to delve in at least! Good one though, that is a tune even if it's Wham!

This is a truth in my mind.

If someone who has never liked 30 Seconds To Mars approaches the band with an open mind and keeps at bay any quick judgement, that person can often find things enjoyable about the band. Because there are things they do that other mainstream bands just can't do, or get right. I think Jared writes in a much more profound way than a whole heap of other bands do, he's rather deep, thoughtful, and to boot, his lyrics are intelligent. There are those more simple or basic 'pop' lyrics the band has, mainly on their second album A Beautiful Lie. But even those songs had some good ideas. I don't want to change anyone's mind about the band who has their mind made up already. But I truly feel that if people do what I've suggested, with each of their albums...there will be things taken away that were liked about the band.

I think Staind were one of the bands lumped in with nu-metal that had something more to them than their peers did. There's evidence in that with the fact that they are still around and doing well. Aaron Lewis does have habit of writing about really depressing things, and it made him sound like a cry baby. But the lyrics aren't pointless. Not saying they are impressive, because they're not. But he wrote pretty decently. I actually still listen to Staind and still think they sound better than even the new bands that have come around after them. I say the same thing of Godsmack. These bands are still here, still doing well, and show no signs of their popularity declining. It's obvious what bands from that period of nu-metal had something to them, apposed to the ones that just wanted to sound cool. That being the ones that are still here, and selling a fair amount of records and managing to pull in successful tours. And let's all be honest. Aaron Lewis has a pretty damn good voice.



Here's one from me. Never thought much of this band. But back when I first heard this song (a long ass time ago) I didn't mind it, actually found myself seeking it out on purpose to hear it from time to time.

I personally like pretty much everything by 30 Seconds to Mars.

My pick is this. I don't hate the band, but this particular track is a step above the rest for me.

Never go wrong with a Foo Fighters song, especially Everlong.

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I try to approach every band with an open mind but im not a fan of Jared leto's voice plus he's too pretty to take seriously.

To be honest with you ive kinda lumped Staind, Creed, three doors down and even Seether (which i like a little) and similar bands into a moment in time i like to call "The worst era in rock music"

To me most of them sound like 3rd generation grunge bands and sure, most of them have a couple of decents songs and still have a following i was clearly unaware of cause im surprised Staind is still playing but that sh*t is not for me.

i can't tell you exactly why i hate it but it has something to do with the creed-like vocals and draggy nu metal guitars most of those bands have.

I know what you mean.

It was hard to find any band from that period of music that didn't sound like every other band. Nu-Metal was a certain sound. And the bands that attempted to vary or differentiate from their peers, they usually only succeeded in sounding like something worse. I think some bands did at least manage to have something to them that others didn't; Korn did this, Staind did this, Taproot did this. Speaking of Taproot. They are another nu-metal band that is still around and releasing albums regularly. Surprising, but true. And they are still fairly popular.

I never thought that Staind would ever break up or become forgotten. They honestly had too much working for them to just go away. And that's been proven true because they are still here. They still play arena's and stadiums, sometimes even selling them out. I agree that the period of music they came from was the worst era for Rock in general, Metal. But some of those bands aren't fairly treated due to the period of music they belong to and came from. I consider Staind one of those bands. Staind was copied by other bands. And the result of that is saying Staind sounds like every other band when the fact is a lot of those other bands, sound like Staind. Same goes for Godsmack and the copy cat bands they have, as well as Korn, Taproot, Linkin Park, Dry Kill Logic, the list goes on.

Jared Leto is a good lookin' dude, this guy has no problem agreeing with you there. Hilariously, it is usually one of the reasons people list as why they can't listen to his band.

Oh, by the way. Creed is not responsible for the vocals you speak of. And I tend to disagree with people that say that the majority of nu-metal singers did what they could with copying that style of vocals. Layne of Alice N Chains will always be the guy that made that kind of vocal desirable in a heavy band, in which case is the majority of the nu-metal wave.

What does Rihanna have to do with current pop tbh. She's just another derivative in a sea of generic sound.

I can agree with this, vast majority of Foo Fighters does very little for me (wouldnt say i 'cant stand' them though) but this song is great

Well she's current, and she creates pop music, doesn't she?

Good examples though people.

Yeah but pop is such a diverse genre. I don't even understand how someone can say they don't like current pop music. Did you mean like hardcore mainstream pop like taylor swift, katy perry, etc?

Yeah, that is sort of what I meant, should've been more specific. I mean there's pop as in general popular music and there's the genre 'pop', which is debatable but to me is about simple song structures and lyricism, written primarily for a young audience in order to make money over any creative pursuit. Obviously their are so many exceptions to that, and plenty of artists from The Beatles and earlier prove you can create music that is both highly commercial and has artistic merit. I guess it's primarily down to the influences that music pop music draws on currently, which appeal less to me, than, say, those of the 60s, where Psychedelia, Rock and Roll, and Folk made up a large proportion of mainstream pop music. Nowadays we see a shift towards R&B, Hip Hop and Electronic influences, which to my taste are less interesting in a pop context.

Oh I hate that definition. Also lol the beatles

I cannot believe I like this song so much considering how much I dislike the band.

Well I don't have a better one. Care to offer one?

The Beatles are pretty much completely overrated and contrived, completely hypocritical -- a classic case of "do as I say, not as I do."

What about like..

Bjork
The Knife
Animal Collective's first album
Goldfrapp's first album

The knife especially. Have you heard Shaking the Habitual? That album is ****ing crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoH6k6eIUS4

The lyrics and the imagery are oozing with political commentary. The knife can be extremely vulgar, bordering on frightening.

I think all of those have a great deal of artistic merit, way more than any Beatles album. The Beatles is kind of elementary compared to other pop artists.

Perfume Genius's second album also, another pop album, incredibly moving and heartfelt. The most simple music you'll ever hear, aesthetically, but so much complexity found within the earnest delivery. So ****ing emotional, yet so simple. So brave, too. Pop isn't just for young people. This is literally someone who has been through some of the most terrible things a person can go through, trying to express that pain and to express a feeling of hope despite tragedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-41zNoRO1sI

Antony and the Johnsons,

****ing Holly Herndon dude, this crazy producer who is bridging these arbitrary gaps between the academic and the instinctual. She is a pop artist who literally goes on tours giving lectures to music students. She graduated from the same place that John Cage did. This is an avant-garde, experimental artist who infuses dance and pop elements into her music, and addresses her audience politically, challenging convention and pushing boundaries both in the pop world and the experimental world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHujh3yA3BE

Looks like interesting stuff, and I'm a huge Bjork fan, but I don't know where this lies in my analysis of pop as a genre. If you're saying that these are examples of its diversity, then yes I agree to an extent, but at the same time, the lines are very blurred.

Also, I get it if you don't like The Beatles, but I do.

I mean I'm talking about pop in the sense of 'Spotify Playlist' pop. I completely agree that it's a really wide span of music overall.

Never listened to anything Animal Collective but I've heard great things so I'll check that album out.

Band westlife!
 

i listen music of westlife. i feel they sing very good. specialy my love'Song. i usesually sing it for my love and every sing it my love feel happy. she kiss me and talk to me . she love me very much!

Huh? Care to elaborate?

I don't like John Lennon.

So what. I don't like Paul McCartney. Think he's a pandering poof. An extremely talented pandering poof, but still a poof. (Silly Little Love Songs makes me puke).

Don't discount The Beatles because of it.

The beatles suck

Breathing sucks.

Water sucks.

Food sucks.

Varg sucks.

Did you just compare a mediocre pop band from the 60s to food, water, and breathing?

I couldn't write off My Chemical Romance. I don't think they're great. However. Songs like the one you posted stood out to me from them. The ideas that band had, some of them were pretty good. And you could do much worse in terms of a mainstream band that liked to mix in several genre's.

I just realized i didn't post the original vid for Ghost of you :p:

One of the main reasons that song grew on me is cause of the video, originally i thought MCR was a little too emo for me to like but that video added alot more meaning to the song and eventually won me over.

I don't hate MCR btw, i always thought they were good band i just never really liked any other song they made except Ghost of you.

I was a big fan of MCR's first album back in the day when it first came out. It's kind of shallow, but I feel like their entire image and their fanbase really kind of ruined it for me, as well as the whole, overly theatrical, emo-queen thing they had going on.

I think they were a band that relied too heavily on their image. Their first album was really cool and visceral, but with each following album, they had this weird transformation. I'm all for heavily visual artists. I'm a big fan of Death Grips and The Knife and iamamiwhoami, but MCR's entire visual aesthetic has always felt very contrived and shallow to me.

This coupled a with blood on the dancefloor / brokencyde level fanbase just put me off.

^ well put, that theatrical emo queen thing did get a little stale but idk it still kinda appeals to me cause i like other songs with that same vibe, exmpl



I hate Fall Out Boy but for some reason i like this.
in fact i remember when i first heard this song i knew right away it was commercial emo crap but i still liked it, i couldn't deny that.

I went as far as to try giving Panic at the disco a shot but all they did was remind me of everything i hate about that kind of music.

They did sort of heavily emphasize that image you speak of, depended on it. A bands image to me should never be as important as how the band sounds, or the way they approach their music. MCR could have produced better music than they did that appealed to me more if they didn't put their growth second to their image.

Just spent $18 on eBay buying Alan Parsons Project's "Tales of Mystery and Imagination" and "Eye in the Sky". Been a while since I've bought new records. :)

Edit: totally posted this in the wrong thread.