Phoned in britpop (a genre that's quite lame on its own) and standard fare trip hop don't get me going the same way that it does for other people.

I guess I'll exclude Portishead because they're just kind of neutral for me.

Britpop was a horrible trend in the 90's, minus Blur.

I'm not familiar with most Britpop artists, but I like Mansun, Kula Shaker and Supergrass a lot. I know a few tunes from others here and there, but I wouldn't say I like someone a lot if I only know 1-3 tunes.

Phoned in? I'm sorry but there's no way that Dog Man Star was phoned in. No one phones in songs like Still Life or The Asphalt World. Not one of the songs on DMS is done in a half hearted or "will this do?" attitude.

And there was nothing "standard" about Dummy at the time. It helped create the standard that few if anyone reached afterwards - Massive Attack did with Mezzanine.

You can be disgusted all you want. It doesn't mean your words are true.

I guess they're just bad songwriters then.

This is just butthurt fanboyism.

When did we establish that I am even a fan of Portishead?

I'd honestly be interested, also, if you could recommend to me some trip hop from before the mid-90s as I always like to hear stuff that people recommend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inference

Also, please refrain from double posting. Wait a minute to see if any new thoughts come to you before hitting post, if that helps.

Apologies. I will do that.

Only just seeing the Inference link.

So you inferred that I was a fanboy of Portishead? I guess we can dismiss your claims that my statement were "just butthurt fanboyism" as I am not a fan.

Also, to address the point about Suede being bad songwriters. I suppose what they wrote about nocturnal London spoke to me a lot in 1994 and that has stayed with me ever since. I am indeed a fanboy of Dog Man Star as it is one of my favourite albums ever. Not everything I was listening to in 1994 has stood the test of 20 years. Certainly not Oasis or Blur.