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Chula Vista 04-15-2016 09:37 PM

Well, they were no New York Dolls.

http://images.popmatters.com/news_ar...73-500x250.jpg

bob_32_116 04-15-2016 09:46 PM

I think it depends what genre of music you look at (or listen to). With rock, especially the heavier kinds of rock, there aren't that many females, so much so that if a rock band had, say, a female drummer or bassist it would be noteworthy. On the other hand women are everywhere in the pop and folk fields. I couldn't quote any figures, but I'd say the numbers in those genres would be roughly equal.

Paul Smeenus 04-15-2016 09:56 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E40LKoYd6jE/hqdefault.jpg

Chula Vista 04-15-2016 10:21 PM

http://41.media.tumblr.com/6UejqWL8l...zJho1_1280.jpg



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...11_306x537.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3084948/th...ICHARD-570.jpg

This video is so great because of the single tracking shot. How many takes did this take?



My point is that I think you need to replace Sexism with Sexuality. I think there's very little sexism in music. There may be some long time held trends but there's been just as many trend busters. If you got the chops and can bring it the doors are mostly always open.

grindy 04-16-2016 01:34 AM

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Inna Selez 04-17-2016 12:39 PM

In our days I don't see sexism in a music industry, like in other branches. If you wanna be popular or professional in any business you have to devote a lot of time, put all life to reach a success. But womens want to have kids and family. Pursuit of happiness takes too much time and energy. That`s why mens become more successful in work.

RoxyRollah 04-17-2016 12:40 PM

These are sexy men.Yes you're right.

SuperSymmetry 04-18-2016 09:24 AM

I don't think it's really a question over whether or not sexism exists in the music industry, but rather what forms sexism takes and to what extent they have an effect.

Is it a self-selection process where women feel alienated from participating in "hypermasculine" genres? Are they ignored by their peers when they do participate? Why are certain genres and instruments given gendered connotations in the first place? How are female musicians represented in the media compared to men? How common is female sexual objectification in popular music? What sort of music is targeted to young girls compared to young boys? Are these trends caused by the music industry itself, or by society at large? And so on.

Sexism itself is a very multifaceted and complex thing. Limiting discussions to just "does it exist" doesn't nearly do it justice.

ChelseaDagger 04-18-2016 01:51 PM

^^^ I agree with the above statement that it's not really a question of sexism.

Why does every observation about gender seem to be required to have a sexism-centered explanation?? This is as absurd as wondering whether the nursing industry is "sexist" against men, purely because it's an estrogen-dominated industry. Or wondering whether the NBA is "racist" against Asians, due to the huge discrepancy between African-American players and players of Asian descent.

Can we stop feigning offense every time anyone makes an observation?? Is it really bigotry that every single industry doesn't have the exact same male-to-female ratio? When REAL examples of bigotry exist, are we really going to sit here and pick gnat sh!t outta pepper, over something so petty as the ratio of male-to-female musicians?

Labels sign artists that they think will make them money-- period. So can we stop crying "exploitation" over female artists who use their own sexuality to peddle their music? That's just consentual and (arguably) smart marketing. In fact, if anything, men are at a disadvantage in this regard, since their success is more contingent upon the public appeal of their music, rather than on their ability to shake their collective @$$ and how nicely that @$$ is shaped. It's 2016: women who want to go into the music industry, do so, taking the same risks as their male counterparts. Likewise, women who want to use their sexuality as an edge to get ahead in life, also do so. What, exactly, is so "sexist" about women choosing their own paths in life, and then living with the benefits/consequences of those choices?

Chula Vista 04-18-2016 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChelseaDagger (Post 1692114)
Labels sign artists that they think will make them money-- period. So can we stop crying "exploitation" over female artists who use their own sexuality to peddle their music?

Yes. Yes we can.


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