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Frownland 10-03-2016 10:26 PM
The Real OG
 
Ignorant motherfuckers all over the place are calling ripoff artists innovators. We're here to correct that. Name a musical innovation that's commonly attributed to one artist and tell us who the real genius is.

First up, Jimmy Page and using a bow on an electric guitar.


Was actually done first by The Creation on Making Time

The Batlord 10-03-2016 10:28 PM
Isn't that kind of a self-indulgent idea to begin with (the bow on the guitar thing)?

Frownland 10-03-2016 10:32 PM
As if music/goddamned GUITAR PLAYERS weren't already self indulgent as ****.

The Batlord 10-03-2016 10:34 PM
But I mean, I'm sure that you can create different sounds with that kind of ****, but I imagine the motivation for something like that is more about how you can make a live audience go, "OH HOLY **** HE'S GOT A VIOLIN BOW THAT'S ALL CLASSICAL AND MOZART AND ****!!!"

Frownland 10-03-2016 10:39 PM
Uh, that's a fiddle bow dude, the **** even is a violin?

The Batlord 10-03-2016 10:41 PM
Is there an actual difference between a fiddle and violin bow? I was under the impression that fiddle and violin were just the same thing described by either rednecks or not rednecks.

Blank. 10-03-2016 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1753603)
Is there an actual difference between a fiddle and violin bow? I was under the impression that fiddle and violin were just the same thing described by either rednecks or not rednecks.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
There are few real distinctions between violins and fiddles, though more primitively constructed and smaller violins are more likely to be considered fiddles. Due to the style of the music played, fiddles may optionally be set up with a bridge with a flatter arch to allow multiple strings to be played simultaneously with more ease, such as the droning in bluegrass music or performing triple stops.
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Frownland 10-03-2016 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1753603)
Is there an actual difference between a fiddle and violin bow?
Nope.

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I was under the impression that fiddle and violin were just the same thing described by either rednecks or not rednecks.
Yep.

The Batlord 10-03-2016 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1753601)
Uh, that's a fiddle bow dude, the **** even is a violin?
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1753603)
Is there an actual difference between a fiddle and violin bow? I was under the impression that fiddle and violin were just the same thing described by either rednecks or not rednecks.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1753606)
Nope.



Yep.
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Frownland 10-03-2016 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1753608)
???
Well, Duh: Why Sarcastic People Are Actually Proven To Be Smarter

Plankton 10-04-2016 10:31 AM
How long before the Vittorio Camardese/EVH reference pops up? I'm gonna say right now.

Frownland 10-04-2016 10:34 AM
*cough* Paganini *cough*

Plankton 10-04-2016 10:40 AM
Oh snap. Forgot about him. Yngwie frowns upon me.

Mondo Bungle 10-04-2016 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1753594)
Ignorant motherfuckers all over the place are calling ripoff artists innovators. We're here to correct that. Name a musical innovation that's commonly attributed to one artist and tell us who the real genius is.

First up, Jimmy Page and using a bow on an electric guitar.


Was actually done first by The Creation on Making Time
So that's first time in history that was ever done huh

Blank. 10-04-2016 09:08 PM
I don't know how popular this one is, but i've been told that The Kinks song Baby You Really Got Me is the original song to use distortion.



Yet here is Joe Hill Louis using overdrive a whole 14 years before The Kinks.



And I think there was more people before him, I just haven't heard those recordings.

Neapolitan 10-04-2016 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1753762)
I don't know how popular this one is, but i've been told that The Kinks song Baby You Really Got Me is the original song to use distortion.



Yet here is Joe Hill Louis using overdrive a whole 14 years before The Kinks.



And I think there was more people before him, I just haven't heard those recordings.
Apples to Oranges comparison. You are comparing the overdrive due to valves/tubes clipping the signal to a speaker cone that was cut with a razor and poked with a pin that produced a distorted sound.

edit: but hooray for valves/tubes providing overdrive and distortion!

Blank. 10-05-2016 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1753763)
Apples to Oranges comparison. You are comparing the overdrive due to valves/tubes clipping the signal to a speaker cone that was cut with a razor and poked with a pin that produced a distorted sound.

edit: but hooray for valves/tubes providing overdrive and distortion!
Nea, congrats! You managed to miss the point completely.

ribbons 10-05-2016 12:42 PM
First use of sitar on a Western pop/rock recording is often thought to be The Beatles' "Norwegian Wood", but The Kinks beat them to it four months earlier on "See My Friends".

Written by Ray for his older sister who died suddenly of a heart ailment just after gifting him with his first guitar at age 13.

Neapolitan 10-05-2016 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1753812)
Nea, congrats! You managed to miss the point completely.
Know what I really missed? The fact you called the song "Baby You Really Got Me" despite posting a YouTube video that had the correct title of the song.

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1753762)
I don't know how popular this one is, but i've been told that The Kinks song Baby You Really Got Me is the original song to use distortion.



Yet here is Joe Hill Louis using overdrive a whole 14 years before The Kinks.



And I think there was more people before him, I just haven't heard those recordings.

Tristan_Geoff 10-05-2016 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1754026)
Know what I really missed? The fact you called the song "Baby You Really Got Me" despite posting a YouTube video that had the correct title of the song.
I do believe you mean, "Baby You Really Got Me One More Time".

Frownland 10-05-2016 10:06 PM

1946

Neapolitan 10-05-2016 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1754030)
I do believe you mean, "Baby You Really Got Me One More Time".
Are you mixing The Kinks with Britney Spears? Cause if you are I am going to throw up.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1754032)

1946
Exactly. Junior Bernard played with Bob Wills. I think Steve Howe sites Junior as a influence. He could dance circles around Jimmy Page with his guitar solos. I always thought that Leon McAuliffe's pedal steel would distort/overdrive a little more than the guitars did. So prompts to him too.


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