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rostasi 05-22-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838539)
Sorry Kiiii, I wasn't trying to derail your thread. Just was making a suggestion and try to convince you that the suggestion was the right way to go. I was addressing rostasi though about genres being liquid, which is such a ridiculous statement, especially coming from rostasi.

Really? Especially me? - a person whose favorite forms of music actually stretch over many genres inside a single tune or band?
You can't get much more liquid than that.

rostasi 05-22-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838548)
I'm not sure if you missed the point of these threads or what...

Mine, Trollheart's, and Kiiii's are about what we are listening to. Not trying to go in depth and review them.

Oh, I thought we had plenty of "what are [you] listening to" threads for that. I guess making one of these threads is easier (or more effortless) than I thought.

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 02:20 PM

You said genres. Which implied all genres which is inherently false. And do you really want all of us posting all of the albums we listened to in those threads? It's to keep them free of clutter.

Trollheart 05-22-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838554)
You're right.

No I'm not.
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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838560)
You said genres. Which implied all genres which is inherently false. And do you really want all of us posting all of the albums we listened to in those threads? It's to keep them free of clutter.

Especially Ki's clutter.

Paedantic Basterd 05-22-2017 02:28 PM

Oh, right, this is why I left.

rostasi 05-22-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838560)
You said genres. Which implied all genres which is inherently false. And do you really want all of us posting all of the albums we listened to in those threads? It's to keep them free of clutter.

Yes, I did say "genres." In the "what are you listening to now" thread a little while ago, I mentioned Tycho. So, which genre would you say that they are: Ambient? Avant-Pop? Post-Rock Instrumental? Psychedelic? or is it some influence-melding of all these and more? I'm thinking that it's pretty tricky to pin this down dontcha?

So, the threads where people post albums that they are listening to
are only to be used sometimes? When? Every third album ... maybe seventh?

?

Key 05-22-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1838564)
Oh, right, this is why I left.

I'm not even going to bother to update this thread now. **** it. It was worth a shot.

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838565)
Yes, I did say "genres." In the "what are you listening to now" thread a little while ago, I mentioned Tycho. So, which genre would you say that they are: Ambient? Avant-Pop? Post-Rock Instrumental? Psychedelic? or is it some influence-melding of all these and more? I'm thinking that it's pretty tricky to pin this down dontcha?

So, the threads where people post albums that they are listening to
are only to be used sometimes? When? Every third album ... maybe seventh?

?

I wouldn't know. I don't listen to Tycho. But if you can't tell then maybe you should do some more research. There are set rules to what a genre is and what fits in there.

I don't care what you post and where you post it. I have my own thread to allow discussion for the albums I listen to and to help me keep track of what I have listened to this year.

Trollheart 05-22-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1838564)
Oh, right, this is why I left.

Don't enjoy the banter?
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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838571)
I'm not even going to bother to update this thread now. **** it. It was worth a shot.

As Batty would say, quit being a whiny bitch and just get on with it. **** happens, people fight/argue; it's a thread. Weave it. Man.

Key 05-22-2017 02:53 PM

nah it's cool. i just see no reason to continue it if i'm doing it incorrectly. i'll let you guys keep doing what you do.

i mean i did start this thread by saying it's pretty much destined to fail.

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838580)
nah it's cool. i just see no reason to continue it if i'm doing it incorrectly. i'll let you guys keep doing what you do.

i mean i did start this thread by saying it's pretty much destined to fail.

Come on Kiiii. Keep doing it. I apologize for derailing it. You can get it back on track. I'll stay out...

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838572)
I wouldn't know. I don't listen to Tycho. But if you can't tell then maybe you should do some more research. There are set rules to what a genre is and what fits in there.

I don't care what you post and where you post it. I have my own thread to allow discussion for the albums I listen to and to help me keep track of what I have listened to this year.

Me? Do more research? I think you mean the band needs to do more research.
Maybe you should write to all those bands that fit (purposely, mostly) into various
genres and tell them that they are only allowed ONE, that's it! - just ONE genre buddy!

As for your own thread, you can, of course, do what you want.
Nobody said you should stop. Not sure where you're getting that idea.

Just curious. Do your research and tell me the ONE genre where this has to be:



The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838587)
Me? Do more research? I think you mean the band needs to do more research.
Maybe you should write to all those bands that fit (purposely, mostly) into various
genres and tell them that they are only allowed ONE, that's it! - just ONE genre buddy!

As for your own thread, you can, of course, do what you want.
Nobody said you should stop. Not sure where you're getting that idea.

Just curious. Do your research and tell me the ONE genre where this has to be:



Quit putting words in my mouth bud. Never said anything about being forced into one genre, that's just asinine. Look at my own threads I make sure that every base is covered. It doesn't matter to me what kind of music you are making, only that I understand what kind of music it is. That's why I wanted Kiiii to post genres. Trust me if I posted the wrong genre, and I have before, on my own thread people are quick to correct me.

EDIT: Sorry Kiiii, that was the last one.

Trollheart 05-22-2017 03:15 PM

I guess the point is that a lot of music does fit into one, or more, genres, while nobody is saying there isn't music that can't be categorised. Hell, I've even used a genre "WTF?" to label some music I've listened to! :laughing:
Now make up, boys, and give Ki back his thread.
:)

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:18 PM

your response to me has been totally about your rigidity of genres:

Quote:

I was addressing rostasi though about genres being liquid, which is such a ridiculous statement...
Quote:

There are set rules to what a genre is and what fits in there.

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1838590)
I guess the point is that a lot of music does fit into one, or more, genres, while nobody is saying there isn't music that can't be categorised. Hell, I've even used a genre "WTF?" to label some music I've listened to! :laughing:
Now make up, boys, and give Ki back his thread.
:)

My point (again) is that Kiiii shouldn't have to feel the need to label these recordings he's listening to with "genre" notifications, because genres are so damn liquid that oftentimes you can't pin it down - and he shouldn't have to.

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838593)
you're response to me has been totally about your rigidity of genres:

Nothing you quoted there is wrong.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-22-2017 03:23 PM

rostasi is basically a musical encyclopedia so idk if arguing with him on this on is gonna get you anywhere

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838597)
Nothing you quoted there is wrong.

So, then you would agree that this statement of yours is actually incorrect:

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Quit putting words in my mouth bud. Never said anything about being forced into one genre, that's just asinine.

Key 05-22-2017 03:29 PM

go ahead and lock this thread.

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838601)
So, then you would agree that this statement of yours is actually incorrect:

How are you making that connection? I guess what you said isn't what you meant.

By saying a genre is liquid, means that the genre is changing, or able to be changed. That is simply not the case. What you are probably meaning is bands and artists can be liquid with their music. Which yes.... I agree with that. No one said Gorguts couldn't go and make a psych rock record. Genres are meant for categorization and recommendations, they are not guidelines.

Exo 05-22-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838603)
go ahead and lock this thread.

I'll lock it when you admit you're being a little bitch over this.

I like your thread Kiiii. You should continue it.

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1838598)
rostasi is basically a musical encyclopedia so idk if arguing with him on this on is gonna get you anywhere

Appreciate the sentiment, but I can't figure out why a guy who adamantly believes that music is set-in-stone and that there is no fluidity,
then states that he thinks that the idea of set-in-stone is asinine.

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838605)
How are you making that connection? I guess what you said isn't what you meant.

By saying a genre is liquid, means that the genre is changing, or able to be changed. That is simply not the case. What you are probably meaning is bands and artists can be liquid with their music. Which yes.... I agree with that. No one said Gorguts couldn't go and make a psych rock record. Genres are meant for categorization and recommendations, they are not guidelines.

Genres DO change! How do you think we get break-offs from them?
Also, the point (yet again!) is that Kiiii shouldn't have to add genres if he doesn't want to,
so stating that record is {blank -just one} genre is often meaningless.
Plus, people will give him crap over it if "he gets it wrong."

The Identity Matrix 05-22-2017 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838608)
Genres DO change! How do you think we get break-offs from them?

EDIT: forget it. I'm done.

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have pushed it this far. I apologize to Kiii for ****ing up his thread. I apologize to rostasi for letting my emotions get in front of my debate skills (or lack there of)

Just move along....

djchameleon 05-22-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1838606)
I'll lock it when you admit you're being a little bitch over this.

I like your thread Kiiii. You should continue it.

I second this. Continue!

Also you don't have to continue today. Take a little break and come back to the thread later on. You did post like five or six albums back to back right away.

rostasi 05-22-2017 03:48 PM

Yeah, Kiiii! Keep it going if you want.
Just don't let others dictate.


Key 05-22-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1838606)
I'll lock it when you admit you're being a little bitch over this.

I like your thread Kiiii. You should continue it.

That's unfair.

Blank. 05-22-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838613)
That's unfair.

Keep going man. Ignore all the bitches. Do what you want.

rostasi 05-22-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838609)
EDIT: forget it. I'm done.

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have pushed it this far. I apologize to Kiii for ****ing up his thread. I apologize to rostasi for letting my emotions get in front of my debate skills (or lack there of)

Just move along....

Everything's cool. I'm reminded every day - multiple times - that musical genres are always in flux. It goes both ways:
multiple genres within a single tune and/or genres in flux that sometimes don't take new names.
Rap music now is not the same rap music of the '70s - even if an artist still wants to call it that today or if (s)he calls it by some slight variation.

Key 05-22-2017 04:25 PM

let me sulk in my own despair and stupidity.

Trollheart 05-22-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1838597)
Nothing you quoted there is wrong.

Other than this
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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838593)
you're response to me has been totally about your rigidity of genres:

* your (sorry, sorry!) :laughing:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1838606)
I'll lock it when you admit you're being a little bitch over this.

I like your thread Kiiii. You should continue it.

x 2
Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1838608)
Genres DO change! How do you think we get break-offs from them?
Also, the point (yet again!) is that Kiiii shouldn't have to add genres if he doesn't want to,
so stating that record is {blank -just one} genre is often meaningless.
Plus, people will give him crap over it if "he gets it wrong."

We'll do that anyway.
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1838615)
Keep going man. Ignore all the bitches. Do what you want.

Except me
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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838626)
let me sulk in my own despair and stupidity.

No

Seriously, **** everyone Ki, just go with it. My threads get derailed all the time (often by you) so just roll with it. Hey, at least it's not being ignored. No tumbleweed here!

Final point on genre tagging: I just would prefer a basic idea of what the album is (hip-hop/ambient/metal etc) - nothing has to be set in stone. But it would be nice. It is, however, up to his Kiness, so, you know...

Blank. 05-22-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1838639)
Except me

I was going to say yeah, but then I remembered some small inconsequential thing you did. So fuck your bitch ass and fuck the bitch ass horse you rode in on.

Exo 05-22-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838613)
That's unfair.

It got a lot of people to support you so you're welcome.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838626)
let me sulk in my own despair and stupidity.

Shut up and keep it going Nancy.

Key 05-22-2017 08:10 PM

you can't make me.

Exo 05-22-2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838853)
you can't make me.

I'll just leave it open for all those to rape and pillage then.

Key 05-22-2017 08:12 PM

come at me, ****ers

Exo 05-22-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838859)
come at me, ****ers

That's the spirit, champ.

Blank. 05-22-2017 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1838859)
come at me, ****ers

I'm going to post in here everyday til you start using it you semen sod.

Key 05-22-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1838871)
I'm going to post in here everyday til you start using it you semen sod.

have fun wasting your time


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