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Frownland 06-13-2017 11:45 AM

To all that I say: tough titties. If the concert isn't to your liking, don't see them when they come back around.

Trollheart 06-13-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1845657)
To all that I say: tough titties. If the concert isn't to your liking, don't see them when they come back around.

Yup. And enough people do that, they start to wonder why they can't sell tickets any more. I continue to listen to their live albums. Everybody wins. Except them.

Frownland 06-13-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1845660)
Yup. And enough people do that, they start to wonder why they can't sell tickets any more. I continue to listen to their live albums. Everybody wins. Except them.

Whammo! That's what I've been saying this whole time. There are no rules of the proper performance, but you can help keep douchey artists at bay with your dollar.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1845663)
if you're seeing bands that cost more than $20 the jokes on you tbh

and funny enough you get the boring arena clap along you paid for I guess

I saw PiL for $40. What about that huh.

Trollheart 06-13-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1845663)
if you're seeing bands that cost more than $20 the jokes on you tbh

and funny enough you get the boring arena clap along you paid for I guess

I suppose I should really qualify that I haven't seen a band live since probably the end of the twentieth century. Don't have that option no more, things being as they are, y'know. So I guess much of what I'm talking about is kind of vicarious, or at least harking back to my youth, when yes, you could see Mamas Boys or Rory Gallagher for a fiver at The Stadium, but no more. Nevertheless, they always faced the audience and were a joy to watch perform.

I obviously never had any interest in seeing Morrison.

Edit: Also, I think we've become hung up on live performances, when the original topic was just about entitled rock stars. It's all good though, but there are other aspects to this than just gigs. Prince is definitely a good example of the latter: bitching about every instance of his music used even in YouTube videos in the background? I mean, really?

Trollheart 06-13-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1845671)
my point is you are going to water down the performances if their job is to please fans and not to be The Artist

There's no reason why they can't do both. Springsteen does a three hour gig and gives it all he's got. There's no watering down of his performance. Same with Queen, when Freddie was alive. Same with a huge - I would even say the larger - percentage of artists. Most of them get as much of a kick out of playing live as the fans do. What about Iron Maiden?

Frownland 06-13-2017 11:57 AM

You're never gonna sell him on that idea using Springsteen as an example.

Frownland 06-13-2017 12:04 PM

I can smell the backsweat just reading about it.

Trollheart 06-13-2017 12:06 PM

**** him. I saw Springsteen on the Born in the USA tour at Slane and he killed it. But he's just one example. The fact is that as I said, the larger percentage of live acts WANT to interact with the audience and for them to interact with the band. Do you think Maiden would stop people clapping? Or Slayer? Or Zu? Zorn? This Heat? Robbie Williams? You-****ing-two? ;) Talk to most bands after/before a gig and they're buzzing, they're psyched, they're hyped up to give a great show. Waters is a prick, plain and simple, and Morrison is an dour, ignorant ****, but I hate his music anyway so that really means nothing coming from me.

Trollheart 06-13-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1845680)
I saw Iron Maiden and yo that **** was boring I'm not sure if the music put me in a coma or the weed

Whether you enjoyed it or not is your problem. I guarantee you almost everyone else who went to that gig did enjoy it. But the point is, did Bruce stop playing Number of the Beast and say "Guys, please don't sing SIX SIX SIX: it would be better without that"????
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1845681)
I can smell the backsweat just reading about it.

At least, you hope that's what you can smell! :laughing:

Frownland 06-13-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1845684)
Do you think Maiden would stop people clapping?

No they probably have a very firm "audience is the boss" philosophy.

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Or Slayer? Or Zu? Zorn? This Heat?
Clapping at one of those concerts would be weird. If they did I wouldn't care though, those clappers are likely drunk jackasses ruining the show for everyone.


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