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The Batlord 07-01-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851607)
I might give the whole thing a spin if I'm feeling like torturing myself one evening, but right now I couldn't possibly handle all those 1.000 vocal overdubs screaming at me every second of the way.

That's the genius of the album though. The production of the guitars, which you think would be way up front like all their other albums, is of equal importance to all of the symphonic elements so that no single instrument gets center stage. They attempted to make a metal album with production in the spirit of classical/opera. Or at least that's what I get from it. In any case it's a singular power metal album in a genre full of guitar albums with pretensions of being otherwise.

MicShazam 07-01-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1851649)
That's the genius of the album though. The production of the guitars, which you think would be way up front like all their other albums, is of equal importance to all of the symphonic elements so that no single instrument gets center stage. They attempted to make a metal album with production in the spirit of classical/opera. Or at least that's what I get from it. In any case it's a singular power metal album in a genre full of guitar albums with pretensions of being otherwise.

Well, when you put it like that. At least that makes me want to see what I would think of it. Lots of metal bands have attempted grandiose albums with symphonic pretentions, but it usually end in disaster.

Frownland 07-01-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851607)
I might give the whole thing a spin if I'm feeling like torturing myself one evening, but right now I couldn't possibly handle all those 1.000 vocal overdubs screaming at me every second of the way.

Oh, so that's why you think old metal mixing is superior.

The Batlord 07-01-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851650)
Well, when you put it like that. At least that makes me want to see what I would think of it. Lots of metal bands have attempted grandiose albums with symphonic pretentions, but it usually end in disaster.

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MicShazam 07-01-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1851658)
Oh, so that's why you think old metal mixing is superior.

I think old metal mixing is superior to anything mixed by Charlie Bauerfeind.

MicShazam 07-01-2017 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1851659)
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ALLRIGHT will you calm down with that already?!

I'll do it when I'm done listening to this gay ass Tori Amos album on my stereo.

Frownland 07-01-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851660)
I think old metal mixing is superior to anything mixed by Charlie Bauerfeind.

Jesus Christ is that how you define modern metal? Yuck.

The Batlord 07-01-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851664)
ALLRIGHT will you calm down with that already?!

I'll do it when I'm done listening to this gay ass Tori Amos album on my stereo.

1. No.

2. OMG Tori Amos has some good ****. I need to dive more into all those albums I stole from the internet. Boys for Pele calls to me.

Dylstew 07-01-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1851614)
Probably not a bad way to start an album. Opening with your 20 minute everything-and-the-kitchen-sink prog-wank masterpiece might be risky.

Rodan begins with almost 7 minutes of guitar noodling:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SRjxl3bN2i8

Only to next put in an energetic short aggrressive track, the only of the 6 tracks like it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3MuTLDGC0JU

It would've worked a lot better the other way around.

MicShazam 07-01-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1851666)
1. No.

2. OMG Tori Amos has some good ****. I need to dive more into all those albums I stole from the internet. Boys for Pele calls to me.

I haven't even listened to that one nearly enough myself. She's got so many albums, and they're so long... So I'm way more familiar with some of the newer ones, even though I have them all.

Just finished listening to To Venus and Back and American Doll Posse this evening and they're both pretty damn good.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1851665)
Jesus Christ is that how you define modern metal? Yuck.

Not really, but you're the one who brought it up in a Blind Guardian context. It's not exactly from the 80's.
Modern metal prodcution - generally - would make me think of the awful sterile sounds of bands like Periphery, Textures, Bring Me The Horizon.


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