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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-08-2017 02:27 PM

i think it’s pretty much unanimously in

Chula Vista 12-08-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1902030)
10 from me, a perfect album from beginning to end. Five Years is my favorite opening track on any album, perfectly sets the tone for the rest of the album and brings everything to life. Not even my favorite Bowie album but untouchable imo.

Ditto. Absolutely brilliant album in every single regard. Hearing this the first time was a total revelation. So unique and original.

One of Ken Scott's best works. The mix of Bowie's voice, acoustic guitar, and then Ronson's crunchy guitar is amazing.

Great read BTW:

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Paedantic Basterd 12-08-2017 02:43 PM

Suffragette City is a ****in' rocker.

Chula Vista 12-08-2017 02:54 PM


MicShazam 12-08-2017 05:46 PM

This one is kind of difficult for me, since I'm not really into Bowie. I mean, I like some of his songs, but I've just never really gotten into the albums as such. My experience with Bowie so far has been that I prefer somewhat newer material, than what's on this album, as I think he matured into a more interesting artist later - kind of also a better singer.

There are some pretty well known tunes on this album and it's hard shake the feeling that the rock establishment puts some mental pressure on for me to bow down and kneel before this album but... This strikes me as a fairly innocent pop-rock album with a bunch of hooks and some personality, which is fine, but I'm not convinced that I would have identified this album as a classic if I didn't already know that it was supposed to be one.

I voted 6, which doesn't mean I think it sucks by any means.

Frownland 12-08-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1902102)
I prefer somewhat never material

Harsh.

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There are some pretty well known tunes on this album and it's hard shake the feeling that the rock establishment puts some mental pressure on for me to bow down and kneel before this album but... This strikes me as a fairly innocent pop-rock album with a bunch of hooks and some personality, which is fine, but I'm not convinced that I would have identified this as a classic if I didn't already know that it's supposed to be one
The ubiquitous nature of this album gave me pause when I was figuring out my rating. It's been so present of my life in its own right and by way of influence that makes it difficult to gauge whether or not I genuinely feel that it's mediocre or if it's genuinely mediocre because maybe it built that standard that I've become tired of. Or maybe Bowie is actually overrated.

Paedantic Basterd 12-08-2017 05:56 PM

I feel let down by the majority of "classics", mostly because to a point, it's impossible for something to live up to that kind of hype. If people talk about something like it's mind-blowing and my mind is not blown, then I tend to rate it more poorly than if I had 0 expectation going in.

MicShazam 12-08-2017 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1902105)
Harsh.

Lol. Fixed.


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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1902105)
The ubiquitous nature of this album gave me pause when I was figuring out my rating. It's been so present of my life in its own right and by way of influence that makes it difficult to gauge whether or not I genuinely feel that it's mediocre or if it's genuinely mediocre because maybe it built that standard that I've become tired of. Or maybe Bowie is actually overrated.

I really do think some of his songs are brilliant, but the dude put out a LOT of albums. Is almost all of it important and genius, or did he also make a lot of music that was merely servicable? It's very hard to judge the music on it's own merits when you know the whole cultural context around it. I feel like my gut reaction is that I'm not all that into this album, so... that's one thing. I don't think I have any way of making a credible argument for how Bowie's legacy might be orverrated, or not.

Chula Vista 12-08-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1902105)
Bowie is overrated.

I have your address. I'm mailing you my gun. Once it arrives, stick it in your mouth and then pull the trigger.

MicShazam 12-08-2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1902106)
I feel let down by the majority of "classics", mostly because to a point, it's impossible for something to live up to that kind of hype. If people talk about something like it's mind-blowing and my mind is not blown, then I tend to rate it more poorly than if I had 0 expectation going in.

I think that might be a factor for me as well, at least sometimes. Some of those immortal classics that everyone goes on and on about - they aren't necessarily all that obvious with why they're great (if they are at all), so I think it's very easy to come away unimpressed. I mean, it took me I don't know how many years before I realized that Joni Mitchell wasn't actually boring, but just very subtle and actually quite brilliant (to me, at least). But I'm not going to give every supposed classic hours and hours of time... so I don't think there's anyway to be sure that I'm not dismissing something I could have loved.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1902108)
I have your address. I'm mailing you my gun. Once it arrives, stick it in your mouth and then pull the trigger.

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